dreieckFeb 8

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In my understanding, one reason why #Reticulum is not usable yet for the use case "internet-free communication accessible to many people" is missing multicast feature, meaning #groupchat s not working.

But now I come to the conclusion that #MeshCore has the same issue: Group chats (channels in MeshCore) are just flood packets, not guaranteed to receive every group member (only where randomly at time of sending the packet makes it through), and beeing flood doing a big burden on the network.

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Why then people concentrate so much on #MeshCore, instead of making a good messaging client for #Reticulum and then we are basically at the same functionality that #MeshCore gives, plus much more advantages?

(Or am I wrong?)

Feb 8 at 3:18pmWeb
Show threadEnron HubbardFeb 8
@dreieck excellent question - i think it might be because the meshtastic-to-meshcore pipeline is real, so there are just more eyes on it. i keep meeting people who have no idea about reticulum even though they're very into meshaging platforms.
Show threaddreieckFeb 8

@enron And now there is something even new coming, #Geogram, https://geogram.radio/.

From first reading, it reads from the network user side more close to #reticulum. But why building something new here, too?

(I have not dug into #geogram more than cross-reading the landing page https://geogram.radio/, though.)

geogram

When the internet goes down, Geogram keeps going. Direct device-to-device communication without servers, accounts, or infrastructure you don't control.

Show threadEnron HubbardFeb 8
@dreieck big "vibe code a mesh platform" vibes there. their github page has claude as a contributor.
Show threadDoppelmembran-WürgenippelFeb 8

@dreieck

Can you get a repeater node in the air with 15cm solar cell and a little battery through the cold and dark winter days on a hill, 2 weeks without sunshine?

Show threaddreieckFeb 8

Why should an #RNode not be able to do that?

And yes, as I meant, end-user #usability due to lack of appropriate #software is not so good yet in #Reticulum, but instead of just writing software for a completely new system, the same energy could have gone into writing end user friendly #Reticulum software (both #firmware for nodes, and software for more capable devices like smartphones, desktop computers, etc.)

Show threadRichie McCoy aka Dr DeejFeb 9
@dreieck I totally agree with you. I'm experimenting with doing calls and running a BBS over RNS. And unlike Meshcore you can also run RNS over packet radio which is something moving more towards. We just have to keep preaching the gospel to everyone and show them the way.