“Canada's incentive program for zero-emissions vehicles, known as iZEV, was suspended more than a year ago after it ran out of money due to high demand.”

Canadian consumers: we want EVs!

Government of Canada: Hello, we're from 2005. Let's do Fuel Efficiency!

#CanPoli #CdnPoli #EV #ClimateChange #ClimateAction #Driving #Affordability
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-auto-strategy-announcement-evs-9.7073975

Government expected to scrap EV mandate in favour of new fuel efficiency system: source | CBC News

The federal government is expected to announce its national automotive strategy on Thursday that includes scrapping Canada's electric vehicle mandate and replacing it with a new system of fuel efficiency standards and credits, CBC News has learned.

CBC

of course... it's actually much worse than just policy dredged up from the days of Paul Martin and Stephen Harper… it's a gigantic step backward at the behest of fossil fuel interests in order to keep people burning fossil fuels.

EV mandates should be 'sold’ as an affordability measure! Because they are!

No, I don't mean grants, I mean everyday use. Real impacts on your pocket book. How much money would you save if you *never* went to a gas station. Just think about that for second.

Then we can do the math.

My 2019 Hyundai Kona Electric just passed 251152km (palindrome!) yesterday and gets around 6km/kWh on average.

I pay about $0.13/kWh at home to charge so that's $0.02/km. That is $5,023.04 in total energy expenses so far.

Our 2012 Toyota Prius C is at 270,000km and gets about 5.5L/100km or 0.055L/km. At (a discounted) $1.25/L that’s $0.04/km or $10,800 in total energy expenses so far.

Per kilometre the EV is half the cost to 'fuel' than one of the most fuel efficient gas cars out there.

In general, why would *anyone* choose something that costs double to run!?

And yet, the government doesn't sell this as ‘affordability’ it sells it as 'environmental responsibility'.

Let's be honest, they do that because they *know* the environmental message is *less* motivating than money.

Now I said at the beginning, "imagine" never going to the gas station. Obviously that doesn't mean you're fueling for free... but there is another overlooked aspect to this.

Fueling your car is a day to day thing. It's one of the biggest pulls on people's bank accounts precisely because it is such a frequent cost.

Now imagine if that 'bill' was just rolled into your home electricity bill. Which you could do other things to reduce cost overall?

EVs are not just an environmental game changer, they are a financial one for the average person.

That is why oil companies are throwing absolutely everything they have at government (and also fomenting fascism) to keep their good times going, at our expense.

#CanPoli #CdnPoli #EV #ClimateChange #ClimateAction #Driving #Affordability

@chris the latest Technology Connections video touches on this, in the context of solar panels. He also makes the very good point that petroleum based fuels are going to get more expensive, because they're gone once you burn them, whereas renewable energy is near zero maintenance for the lifetime of solar panels.
@claus His framing of "disposable energy" is particularly choice. @chris
@chris it makes me angry. Very angry.
we really need an incentive program for e-BIKES

@cageyratfish.bsky.social BC had a e-bike rebate for awhile! But now it's kind of been supplanted by this program that is focused on electric motorcycles and business stuff.

https://www.goelectricotherrebates.ca

CleanBC Go Electric Rebates | Electric Vehicle Incentive Program

The CleanBC Go Electric Rebates rebates on zero-emission motorcycles, cargo e-bikes, utility trucks, buses and more.

well dang, i missed out on that. It should be permanent. None of these greener-tech rebate programs should be temporary, really. there should be permanent & even *increasing* incentives for to increase their use of renewables oh well, gotta subsidize that LNG tho i guess 🤮

@chris

Im so sick of hearing about hybrids. IMO they are the worst of all worlds.

#EV

@sleepy62 I can't say anything but good things about our Prius C. It was affordable to buy and it is extremely reliable.

But it's from 2012. The time for hybrids is over.

@chris

Yes. when the prius was introduced it was impressive and an important stepping stone to zero emissions. But it is not any more. Even the prius C spews toxic emissions and needs oil changes.

@chris I agree completely. It is disgusting that oil & gas companies get to force decisions on citizens whilst these companies are given billions of our money in subsidies
@chris This is so stupid. Also, who wants to bet we get another round of carmakers lying about the mileage?
@ZenHeathen oh this is essentially guaranteed. There is always room for fraud!

@chris Good for Guilbeault, clearly saying this is wrong.

> "We need that mandate," said Guilbeault. "It is essential. Not just for climate change, but in terms of air pollution, the impacts, the health benefits of doing this are very important."

Industries always find a way to use crises to justify doing what they always wanted to do

@chris

EV price subsidies dont work well with ending tariffs on Chinese cars. And subsidies knock out Chinese EVs main purpose, driving DOWN the price of cars in Canada.

Subsidising local auto makers to help lower THEIR cost of manufacturing, drives auto makers to make cheaper cars, electric cars.

So we MUST LOUDLY DEMAND transition to electric subsidies to makers, through workers.

@chris

Carney could identify thousands of workers as "at risk to trumps tariffs" or something, guarantee half their union pay if they are hired to advance a battery electric vehicle economy. For example.

Purchase subsidy in Canada isnt selling cars.

Yay cheap Chinese EVs. Drive costs down. Yay local EV production.

Other methods may work better, have fewer flaws, but lowering local vehicle cost is a PRIMARY goal, in the transition.

#climate #ev #cdnpoli

@kevinrns @chris

I still think the best option is for the Federal Government to create a crown corporation building EV's and selling them domestically at cost... it guarantees jobs in Canada and it makes EV's cheap in Canada (since the crown corporation can be mandated to produce non-luxury EV's).

Plus the total cost would be a fraction of what was spent on TMX with significantly more benefits for Canadians.

@RantingCanuck @chris

Sure. Methods to get support to jobs, not corps, to building the transition not protecting corporations.

Canada rescued Chrysler and General Motors when they failed, bankrupted.

Canada has earned the right to protect those billions in investment, and the billions needed now, to deal with world corporate billionaire coups.

So really sure. Any level of organizational insurance our policies expand jobs, fight climate collapse.

#cdnpoli #climate #jobs #auto #evs

@RantingCanuck @kevinrns @chris If it's anything like Canada post they'll make a car nobody can afford and that doesn't work half the time.
@chris And it is so short-term view. EVs are catching up very quickly and beating fuel cars. Autonomy is getting better, prices are going down, and as you wrote: operation cost blasts fuel cars.

An EV mandate is not just a requirement to tackle emissions, it's a matter of survival for car makers. Giving them an incentive to slow down the electrification of their product range is a lethal poison. They'll be wiped out of the market and by the time they realize it, it will be too late to catch up with the competition.

The only way to save them will be more tariffs, until North America looks like the Soviet Unions with its crap cars.

@matlag @chris the ev thing is a shame really. i can never purchase and drive a modern car with all its bullshit electronics and computers and touchscreens.... not to mention SO UGLY.

tho it is becoming harder and harder to buy a car old enough to avoid all that crap.

walkable city for me i guess.

@barrygoldman1 @matlag fully hear that. the BS electronics are wholly unnecessary and superfluous to the functioning of the car. Imagine a 1982 style toyota corrola... electricfied... one can dream.
@chris @matlag nice dream! my dream is a 90s volvo station wagon
@barrygoldman1 @chris Well, my point was only about EV vs fuel.

If you ask me, I would much prefer to have "disconneted cars". I'm not so bothered by the screens, but the constant spying on occupants is the biggest shame. And that now concerns as much EV as new fuel cars.

@barrygoldman1 @matlag @chris

Luckily, we are starting to see legislation around things like the need to have physical controls for common operations while driving, a requirement for mechanical door handles to avoid people getting stuck in an emergency etc.

The big screen is neat for the GPS maps, but horrible for safe operation that allows us to keep our eyes on the road.