nyanbinary
Yo, wanna move away from gmail as the anchor for my online identities that I can't selfhost (e.g. email for Domain registrar) - anyone got any recommendations for european providers worth checking out?
Feb 4 at 9:24amWeb
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5

Ok, recommendations so far: Mailbox, Proton, Tuta, Posteo.

Excluding Proton for "on my personal shitlist" reasons.

Will ignore Tuta free tier as I don't want to be dependent on a fundamentally unsustainable business model.

Don't need bells & whistles so always going with the lowest paid tier. This unfortunately kicks out Tuta as they are 3x as expensive.

Posteo is kinda ... eh for me as it requires pre-payment, limited to 12mo - I know myself, at some point I will forget. So... Mailbox I guess?

Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
Oh, neat, they don't even filter out my own mailserver!
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
I mean... ok, sure, Linux users WILL figure it out but... 
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
Ok, lack of Phishing-resistant MFA is a problem... (TOTP only)
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
Ok, looks like Posteo also doesn't support U2F/WebAuthn. Tuta does though! Might need to reconsider...
Show threadCN=MFA_Everywhere,OU=BLMFeb 5
@nyanbinary I will eventually get and then regret getting a "Webauthn4Life" tattoo. Thanks for doing the research!
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
@SporkSan ...I have been thinking about which tattoos to get and you are giving me stupid ideas 
Show threadCN=MFA_Everywhere,OU=BLMFeb 5
@nyanbinary fido2 adjacent is on the list for a future tattoo, I need to get a #battletech one first. They really are addictive.
Show threadB'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦Feb 5

@nyanbinary I moved/moving to Tuta. So far I reeeeallly like it. Adding custom domains and address was easier than Google Workspace. The same process will validate your MX, SPF, DKIM, DMARC and MTA-STS.

They don’t support ruf due to privacy, which is fine. I only care about rua since I roll on strict reject.

Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 5
@badsamurai sidenote, it is still wild to me that gmail has a dmarc policy of none DESPITE their own workspace recommendation being switching to at least partial quarantine soon after starting the p=none trial.
Show threadB'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦Feb 5
@nyanbinary Google has never been in the business of stopping crime.
Show threadTaran RampersadFeb 4
@nyanbinary I'm in process of shifting to Proton mail.
Show threadOddFeb 4
@nyanbinary Run Stalwart yourself. Worked quite well for me for almost a year now. But I still keep Gmail around for job searches and stuff, when I can’t afford a mail to bounce. But I’m forwarding from Gmail to my own, so that way I can just purge my Gmail regularly and still have a copy on my own server. But gonna ditch Gmail fully at some point. Just not there yet.
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 4
@odd as mentioned: this is for the stuff I can't self-host (or at least run on a VPS), THAT side I already got covered. But using an email address on my own domain+mail server to manage those introduces a circular dependency/makes full recovery impossible in the cases of certain failures.
Show threadnyanbinaryFeb 4
@odd practically all my email runs over my own mailserver already, this is just about the stuff required to run that mailserver.
Show threadOddFeb 4
@nyanbinary Ah, sorry then. Guess I read too fast.
Show threadReeaFeb 4
@nyanbinary tutamail is the most frequently mentioned in my local feed...