Goiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
gawd, my Autistic contrariness is out of control, one minute into this bit at anthropology dot net, I’ve objected four times already.
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“Picture this: you’re in Alaska, at the end of the Ice age, it’s brutally cold -“
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- if it’s brutally cold, why is it the end of the Ice age? Does Ice disappear because it’s still “brutally cold?”
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. . . aaaand three more like that 😠
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#ND #ActuallyAutistic @autistics
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts hahaha yeah 'brutally cold' means different things at the end of an ice age than in the midst of one, does it not? idt thats contrarianism, thats just... pointing out a logical flaw? which i dont think is inherently wrong, because its just... true? like, you aren't trying to be mean or contrarian but the way they are communicating just isnt well/fully thought through or maybe truthy/coherent enough for you lol
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
@aka_panda_333
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ty 💜
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but it seems to be progressive, the more I chase my own mind the worse people look 😬💜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts what do you mean, if you dont mind me asking? like, the more you try to understand yourself the less you become understood? OH or the less you understand others?
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
@aka_panda_333
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yes, my divergence seems to be ongoing, normal people look less normal and more screwed up to me every day
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I mean, they're not getting better, but my perception of them is getting worse faster than they are. And yes, it's getting more and more clear that they can't ever understand me.
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts in other words, i dont think YOU are the problem, nature literally thrives off diversity. thats how we get to evolution. this 'social script' we are told to play doesnt align with allowing for that. idt thats an us problem, i think we just need to drop the unnecessary script lmao it is kinda screwed up to keep maintaining the status quo at this point when things are just like... not okay?? wtf? nts would be like oh well, hows the weather? lmaoooo yeah, that IS fucked up
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts srry this thought wont stop lol sticking to the script is just... lying to ourselves? why is it okay to perpetuate that? why is it seen as us being weird when we are just trying to be honest about what we are seeing??? maybe we dont use the right words to communicate our thoughts but like... if we all come in with good intentions, no need for scripts, no need for lying, no need for anything other than just allowing the other person to exist as they are. why wouldnt ppl want tht?
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts AND HOW IS THAT NOT MORE EVOLUTIONARILY ADVANTAGEOUS??? ok im done shouting to the void lol sorry
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
@aka_panda_333
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I get it, no problem.
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Thing is, they have taken control, the only selective pressure there is anymore for nearly all humans, the only environmental factor that can matter for our survival and our evolution is human authority.
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Weirdly, evolution is the power behind this fuckup. But the point is, it’s what’s operating - and they don’t believe in it. They insist on their stupid Human Nature instead. it’s an impossible bind. 💜
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#ND #ActuallyAutistic @autistics
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts yeah its typically nts in positions of power, but if we look at their actual psyche, its not 'typical' according to nature. Nature shares resources, selects for diversity, becomes stronger through interconnection. the nt way of greed and exploitation and self-serving is none of those things. its not natural to me, idk. like, i can't keep to the script because its just not my human nature, i want to be open, honest, loving, but i can't be because i get taken advantage of 1/2
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts 2/2 so yeah, they built the systems, but doesnt mean we have to just.. live with that, idk. there are predators in the forest, but its the mycelia underground that is actually keeping the forest alive and robust, the predators are but one part of that ecosystem. idk. ITS NOT HUMAN NATURE TO BE SELF SERVING and i will die on that because it doesnt fit the broader pattern of nature itself. and humans are but animals afterall lol btw ty, i am loving this dialogue. i appreciate you
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
@aka_panda_333 💜
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same 💜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts haha ty for listening 💜 im glad theres this space for us to communicate here. it was very isolating and lonely on the other parts of the internet lol this dialogue would have been shut down so hard because nts just... dont wanna hear it yet. but like, i dont see a point in muting ourselves for their comfort. its doing more harm than good at this point. act/intend/speak with love, and if someone is hurt by that, maybe they have some internal stuff they need to work through. idk.
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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Yeah. I do think they’ll pass laws and kill me for it. What I was typing when that reply came through:
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honestly, I go back and forth beyween this scientific and saintly, “it’s neurotype, they’re not lying,” and, “all
they fucking do is lie, lie, lie, take a break for some violence, and then lie some more.” If it’s all type, then neurotype is just impossible to understand, like quantum shit. 💜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts but if we look at the actual neurology it brings us back to the pruning point. nts go through a significantly higher pruning growing up that nds. maybe thats them shedding their nd-ness to conform to the 'approved' neural pathways. i mean, when nts take psychadelics and have a transformative experience, its reawakening those shut off pathways, bridging connections they kept themselves from seeing. then what? they completely change. become more in accordance with true 'nature'
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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Ha - if it were us, it would be all these "areas of brain damage," but it's them so it's "regularly scheduled pruning" 😂
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I can draw the parallel, I can see just what got pruned and it's basically everything but their social business and authority.
I'm all about punishment and punitive abuse - and the cult of punishment turns the world upside down, Bad is good - hurt someone, that's supposed to make them better. Their morality is, that when someone does something wrong, they hurt them, because hurting people isn't on the list of things that are wrong, it's on the Good list.
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So there was normal, primal, basic morality where if you love something, you DON'T hurt it - and then they introduce this trick, Bad makes Good - and now Bad is Good and carries the physical force of punishment behind it, and the old, normal morality is forced out - so 85% of the brain must be shut down, that's the pruning.
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Good Lady, and I think I'm going to explain anything to them after that, don't I?
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What an idiot. 😜
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#ND #ActuallyAutistic @autistics
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts HAHAHA SO THEY JUST CANT HELP THAT THEY DONT UNDERSTAND US, THEYVE JUST BEEN 'PRUNED' AND PHYSICALLY CANT ATM lmaooo yeah its backwards af. its what happens when we stick to survival patterns. but like, being human isnt about surviving, its fucking living??? whats the point of life if its only survival? humans have big brain, humans should use all of big brain to fullest capacity because.. why not?? what is the advantage to such a high amt of pruning? it doesnt help anymore
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai Lama
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I hadn't named it yet, but that Morality Replacement theory TM is genetic drift, the Allistics are not quite finished taking over the world (so it's not really "anymore." They are new and an unviable gene, struggling to keep being born and we are part of the old world that is dying. My Neurodiversity theory has Autistics as OG and Allistics as rather new). 💜
Feb 3 at 11:32pmWeb
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3

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Wow, that works so well, who was it said that, The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born, this is the time of monsters?
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- oh, right, Homer Simpson, wasn't it 😀
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But it fits my Autistic origin story for Allistics, my worldview perfectly, the new world struggles to be born because it isn't viable, it's a mutant monster sure to kill the mother and die soon after
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wooow

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#ND #ActuallyAutistic @autistics

Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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that Homie is one stealthy deep sumbitch, huh 😜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts haha see but thats the beauty of it, the homer thing is a perfect example, thats what nts are missing when they prune those connections, is that you can learn these deep, fundamental life lessons from ANYTHING, and you miss that learning if you don't even bother to look bc 'its just a cartoon, get back to work'. you miss out on the potential for learning a deeper truth
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 4
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I can't see stretching this out to be a blog
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there's a thing or two, the "worlds," that are born and die are clearly not literal external worlds, the old world is the old mind, the Neolithic mind of the old world and the new world is the new mind, it's the new mind that is struggling to be born
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the viability, that's probably every blog already
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but the monsters are not some transitional period for me, like that always sounded . . .
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 4
@punishmenthurts what do you mean by that? 'monsters are not some transitional period'? and did you mean you can or can't see a blog coming out of this? i agree that they are less external worlds and more internal states that manifest external outcomes.
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 4
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I always heard that spiel as though there are monsters occupying the trough between the old world and the new, and if the new world can manage to get itself born things would be OK again - I don't see the new world we have ever working out that way,.
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It's maybe easy to see Marx's "history of failure," as the new world struggling to be born for five thousand years now, and I'm not clear that things are getting better. I think the image fails me a little because for me the monsters ARE the new world?
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 4
@punishmenthurts perhaps the monsters created a world within the trough, but perhaps people like us, are meant to bring us into the new world/old ways of thinking. like a cycle. allistics/individualism were needed for a certain amount of growth, ok, now its getting destructive, time for cooperation and love and truth again and we all live happily ever after lmaooo idk, im tired of pretending. imma speak up now. i love everyone and mean no harm and i believe that should be the new way of existing
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts haha we may be in the time of monsters, the iron age is what the greeks called it lol you can find the pattern of truth anywhere, dm if its a cartoon if its true lol i love that quote. and i think the world is no longer at the peak of the parabola of transitioning, but on the upward (or downward depending on parabola haha) slope. as in, i think the 'world' is ready to let go of the old and bring in the new. ppl are just scared and waiting for everyone else to go first lmaooo
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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I think that shift was almost finished in Greece when they writ that, I think the world used to be Autistic and then that started to change and history began
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But I do want to believe that's what that quote was about 👍 💜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts i like your theory, can you tell me more about how you arrived at it?
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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I’m a very late hatcher, but I knew for a long time there was something different about “normal people,” I just never had the word or the concept of Autism. And I never lost my infantile shock about punishment, I knew it would destroy the world the first time I saw it, and I watched everyone around me grow up and change and accept it, but I never did.
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There’s a whole short book about the theory, free from my profile. It was based on the #ChaliceAndTheBlade , but I audited that for genetics and neurotype, it was an Allistic attempt, The Chalice, talked about “social models,” and chaos theory. 😇
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 4
@punishmenthurts holy shit, i creeped a bit on your posts and we def need to talk more, you know SO MUCH ABOUT ANCIENT HISTORY I LOVE IT i wanna deep dive now lol and i can do that on my own but its always a lot more fun to see the connections others have made and patterns they've seen. This is the type of shit people miss out on when they reroute the convo to current conditions outside lmao imma read your book, im a slow reader though but i def would like to talk more about this i love it
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 4
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wow, thanks.
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You know, I'm an armchair sort, I haven't seen the digs, so I don't presume the authority to say, "This is the Way It Is," but I will say, I have run an experiment to see if another narrative is possible, and I think I've shown it is. I see the regular education about people and history and prehistory as all Allistic science, and I think I've shown that it's possible to have an Autistic science . . . framing as well. 💜
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 4
@punishmenthurts well all we can really do is try to explain the patterns and things we are seeing and create cohesiveness and connection out of it. and yeah, mainstream science has been dominated by a narrow, materialist, lens which misses out on things like the science across ancient cultures, other paradigms and ways of thinking. we have to look at all of it, not just a narrow lens, to really understand what the truth is. and i think our brains are perfect for that kind of pattern recognition
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 4
@punishmenthurts SHIT WHAT WTF IS #AUTISTICSCIENCE I NEED TO KNOW WTF what have you doneee lol anything else i was gonna do today has just left my system lmao holy shit there is so much to explore here
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts and that may very well be true. there is, however a rise in nd, more dx than before for adhd/autism, and sure, we know more so see it more, but also, people are raising their kids differently. less 'spare the rod' and nd ppl especially tend to allow their kids to just exist as their crazy weird selves, and i think that is really what causes nd is retaining those neural connections from being a child. keeping the 'child like wonder' as they say lol 1/?
Show threadGoiterzan/Amygdalai LamaFeb 3
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not really my take. We are in times where the bad guys are in the ascension and more diagnoses probably just means that the normals are getting more particular about who counts as one of them.
Show threadaka_panda_333Feb 3
@punishmenthurts could be but like... they are just wrong here lol their way of doing things that way is just gonna end, one way or another. either they kill us all, or we get enough people to see past the bullshit and how everything is backwards affff lol and i think most ppl feel it but are too scared to actually say or do anything about it. change is hard and scary and uncomfortable so they'd rather just... not. but we literally cant do that forever. change is inevitable one way or another