Greg GannicottDec 30
mcc
The Second-Order Streisand Effect is a social phenomenon where if a party makes an effort to censor information, discussion and news about the censoring attempt paradoxically leads to an increased awareness of Barbra Streisand, a musician whom most Zoomers would probably have never heard of if not for the Streisand Effect
Dec 29 at 7:27pmWeb
Show threadHeliographDec 29
@mcc yes ;D a bit like the Jevons paradox where attempts to reduce emissions through technological improvements leads to increased consumption of energy because technological improvements
Show threadrugkDec 29
@Heliograph
Only know this by rebound effect
@mcc
Show threadbornachDec 30

@rugk @Heliograph @mcc
So who was the rebound effect named after?

Must be before my time because I've never heard of that artist.

Show threadBen CurthoysDec 29
@mcc meta-streisand vs mecha-streisand
Show threadMans RDec 29
@bencurthoys @mcc The one from South Park?
Show threadBen CurthoysDec 29
@mansr @mcc I don't know of any other giant mechanical Streisosaurs!
Show threadMans RDec 29
@bencurthoys @mcc Neither do I, but there are a lot of things I don't know.
Show threadBen CurthoysDec 29

@mansr fair enough. Yes that is what I was referring to. The word sound of "Meta Streisand" as the second order Streisand effect reminded me of "Mecha Streisand" from South Park, which was itself (I think) a reference to the Streisand effect and again has outlived the fame of the referent.

(Edit no the episode was not a reference I checked and my memory is wrong, the episode was 5 years before the lawsuit)

Show threadJoeDec 29
@mcc Would the Duck Sauce song have still been made? I have no idea
Show threadJoeDec 29
@mcc Follow up question: if it hadn't, whose name would have been used instead?
Show threadestelleDec 29
@mcc clearly, we need another wave of disco beat revival
Show threadMark von ÜbelgartenDec 30
@estelle @mcc
Show thread[ちょろい]² hannah Dec 29
@mcc i can confirm i am a zillennial and have no clue who she is
Show threadmccDec 29
@hannah She's the person who the Streisand Effect is named after
Show thread[ちょろい]² hannah Dec 29
@mcc oh i see, thanks!
Show threadEli the BeardedDec 30

@hannah @mcc

I just read this aloud to my daughter and she said she also knows Streisand from "Hello Dolly", she sings that Yonkers song in Wall-E

Show threadfuricleDec 29
@mcc thus yet another generation is the wind beneath her wings....
Show threadmausmaloneDec 29
@furicle @mcc Bette Midler
Show threadYgorDec 29

@mcc Funnily enough, I first heard of Barbra Streisand thanks to My Little Pony. In fact, although I heard of the Streisand Effect a few years ago, I'm just now finding out it predates this 2011 episode. I thought it was a more recent thing. Then again, I'm not a zoomer anyway.

https://youtu.be/Z_V_niMzmM0

#MyLittlePony #FriendshipIsMagic

Friendship is Magic - 'The Art of the Dress' Music Video

YouTube
Show threadMegDec 29

@mcc I was just thinking the other day about how Streisand's own Streisand Effect will never be topped because hers will be remembered every time someone else does one for a very long time.

It's also lolsob funny how quaint hers was in hindsight, for all that.

Show threadMorgan ⚧️Dec 29
@mcc me, an early zoomer raised by boomers: *reads the post aloud to my wife, assuming that since she's older than me they will also know who Barbara Streisand is*
My wife: Barbara Streisand is a musician?
Show threadacbDec 29
@mcc Do people know that Streisand was specially a singer/actor, as opposed to “some famous lady” known for being mansion-shy? It may be like the anecdotal story about kids guessing that Bob Marley was a rapper or footballer, knowing only of his love of ganja.
Show threadGary Dec 29
@mcc those same people may also wonder what Barbara Streisand’s house looks like, ironically 😀
Show threadmccDec 29
@WiteWulf TBH I have never wondered this
Show threadGrégoire LocquevilleDec 29
@mcc "a musician whom most Zoomers would probably have never heard of if not for the Streisand Effect"
... sooo are we pretending that Duck Sauce's song "Barbra Steisand" isn't a thing n... wait that song is *15 years old*? 🧓
Show threadJames WoodDec 29
@glocq @mcc I'm pretty sure that song is why I know of Barbra Streisand, and I'm only 30.
Show threadGrégoire LocquevilleDec 29
@mudri ... so you're arguably not a zoomer :p
Show threadtaylor Dec 30
@glocq @mcc can confirm. the duck sauce song & the effect are the only things i know about Barbra Streisand
Show threadNo One SpecialDec 29
@mcc It's not "Barbara"; it is "Barbra".
Show threadJoe OrtizDec 29

@mcc Just to correct you, it's Barbra.

In any case, I have a lucky partner who's actually heard of both her and the term.

Show threadFirekeeperDonDec 29

@mcc

'It's the year 13499, the only two remembered figures from the ~2000's are Jesus and Barbara Streisand.'

Show threadChao-c'Dec 29
@mcc it is closely related to the recursive Godwin's law: It states, that if you want to be more famous than Hitler, you need to formulate law mentioning Hitler.
Show threadWillDec 29
@mcc
I remember her!
Show threadThe Orange ThemeDec 30
@wannabemystiker @mcc Gonna tell my kids this was Barbra Streisand.
Show threadWillDec 30
@theorangetheme
Haha!
Show threadtrying bear 🕊😺🕊🐼Dec 29
@mcc you can edit this to correct the misspelling of her first name.
Show threadjnkrtechDec 29
@mcc the Third-Order Striesand Effect is the periodic spike in YouTube plays of that one Duck Sauce song
Show threadbornachDec 30
@jnkrtech @mcc
Was gonna mention this
https://youtu.be/UpxKKBLUP2g
DUCK SAUCE - Barbra Streisand (Official Video)

YouTube
Show thread@[email protected]Dec 29

@mcc

I used to have a few Barbara Streisand albums. Helluva voice. I also liked a guy MOST have no idea about: Paul Williams who was also an actor, had an album with a song I loved that he sang. I found about 6 songs I enjoyed listening to him sing. My son has all of those albums now, but check him out if you have any interest at all. He is quite short stature-wise.

Show threadMacCruiskeenDec 30
@BillMcGuire @mcc If you really want to freak your kid out, have him watch "Phantom of the Paradise".
Show thread@[email protected]Dec 30

@maccruiskeen @mcc

naw. He's 43. No freaking him out.

Show threadmccDec 30
@BillMcGuire @maccruiskeen 43-year-olds are actually unusually susceptable to being freaked out by Phantom of the Paradise, because 43-year-olds are unusually likely to be familiar with Andrew Lloyd Weber's Phantom, and will be entirely baffled to learn Paradise came first
Show threadmccDec 30
@BillMcGuire @maccruiskeen 43 year olds who listen to Scissor Sisters will be doubly freaked out when they find out about Paul Williams
Show threadCharles ☭  is a GreenDec 30

@mcc

Welp, I'm ancient I guess.

Show threaddontonyDec 30
@mcc and honestly without the Streisand Effect, millennials wouldn’t know who she was without Rachel Berry from Glee
Show threadLog 🪵Dec 30
@mcc Higher order harmonics of the effect increase awareness of the following:
+ Mike Masnick, of Techdirt
+ photographer Kenneth Adelman
+ Marco Beach Ocean Resort's urinals
+ the military radio station at Pierre-sur-Haute
+ AACS encryption key 0x09F91102 9D74E35B D84156C5 635688C0
+ Trafigura dumping toxic waste in Côte d'Ivoire
+ Mark Zuckerberg is a creep
+ Scientology is rabidly abusive
+ Elon Musk's jet doesn't like being live-Tweeted on X
Show threadIan K TindaleDec 30
@mcc they’ve probably never even heard of Effect. Or any other words. Hey you, have you even heard of words? They’re all made up.
Show threadDave MuthDec 30
@mcc I'll take another order of that, please.
Show threadAsta [AMP]Dec 30
@mcc Charles Boycott: “that’s right, you fuckers! Who got the last laugh, huh!?”
Show threadIron BugDec 30
@mcc I learnt about many new insteresting resources on the net exactly from censure ban lists. there's no more effective free adverticement to any resource than trials to ban it.
Show threadtrying bear 🕊😺🕊🐼Dec 30
@mcc THANK YOU
Show threadTobiasDec 30
@mcc I'm a 1985 born German.
Your analysis is correct even for me.
Show threadNeil MoffattJan 8
@mcc She was mesmerisingly perfect and fascinating in the film "What's up doc".