Thomas Morin
Juan Carlos MuñozI had to. Sorry / you're welcome.
(I used to use pine when I started my PhD circa 2005, no idea why but it felt cool)
T. Emil Rivera-Thorsen@astro_jcm Our university computer accounts were set up with Pine when I started my undergrad in 2004. It was a pretty nice program actually, if a little limited in capability. Simple and pleasant to use. Wouldn't go back but remember it quite fondly.
@Thriveth I think I started using it because I saw someone else at my department using it, but yeah, it was pleasantly simple!
Gerbrand van Dieyen@Thriveth @astro_jcm it was quite user friendly for a text based mail client.
րպհտին ջվգեան ⊽🜁@[email protected] i never used mutt (maybe i have), and till today i use alpine.
when i used it, it wasn't for coolness.
there was a undp sponsored project in yerevan, called freenet.am. there was a free dial-up, and telnet access to their unix server.
most people didn't use it, but many youngsters learned how to use telnet and some unix commands, primarily for using talk in console.
and pine was the way to read emails. of course it was also possible to use web mail (not useful at all) and email clients - that's what most people would do.
but mail client would download an attachment on dial-up, and with pine it was easy and fast to check and answer.
danimrich@astro_jcm
It definitely felt like you could plow through e-mail faster than with other mail clients - as long as the messages didn't contain images.
It definitely felt like you could plow through e-mail faster than with other mail clients - as long as the messages didn't contain images.
fedops 💙💛@danimrich not only feels like it. Still is (as alpine).
It also handles images reasonably well if you have a keyboard-controllable image viewer configured.
@astro_jcm
@danimrich yeah, I miss that!
PhDogI used pine the same year as you! I felt like a l33t haxx0r, lemme tell ya!
Andrew Zonenberg@astro_jcm Honestly I would go back to alpine in a heartbeat if I could. But with OAuth mandatory on most mail providers it's getting harder and harder to use a CLI client without the ability to spawn a browser.
@[email protected] @[email protected] the limitation is also an opportunity to setup own mail server.
@astro_jcm *Giggety*
Moon joy@t54r4n1 👆 may be amusing to you :) https://mastodon.online/@astro_jcm/115797446225763380
paramilitary organizer@bright_helpings I can't see what you're pointing at?
@bright_helpings hehe yay it me in email client form
Rodrigo Dias@astro_jcm PINE? That's a blast from the past. Fun meme though 😄
Tachibana Kanade@astro_jcm @m Ironic to hear it from a mutt
Martin Hamilton
Aaron Toponce ⚛️
@astro_jcm While dating my wife in 1999, Pine was the only email client available at my local university. I still remember it fondly, and wish I had an archive of those emails.
@atoponce I think I still have my archive somewhere...
NullNoMore@astro_jcm - the flash I just backed!!!
Michael BuschThis is not Elm.
Paul Wouters 🇪🇺🇨🇦@astro_jcm @atoponce best mail client ever! Still use it daily 🤣
Dianora (Diane Bruce)@astro_jcm A Mutt claiming Pine is better?
Chao-c'@astro_jcm Pine was my first encounter with e-mail on university, around 1994 or so...
grobiHey,
maybe you're calling me some names now, but nowadays I've been using the alpine mailclient for decades and until today. By the way, the configuration file is still called pinerc and in it you can specify the editor for compose and replies, for example. For me, it's called Vim and together with the file manager ranger, a damn fast workflow can be generated from the console without annoying program changes via the desktop gui. You just have to coordinate the configuration files of the programs with each other... for example, to quickly send newly created scripts to a group out of your editor. Another interesting mail client for such work is aerc! So we have quite a choice with Mutt, Alpine, Aerc, Neomutt to move directly from commandline.
Julika Mimkes@astro_jcm I miss pine!
cholling@astro_jcm It's not Elm
Sami Lehtinen@astro_jcm elm was more fun, especially with huge mail boxes.
Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC@astro_jcm pine was my first email client back in the 1990s. It's also why the editor nano exists: First there was pico, a text editor based on pine, but IIRC it wasn't under GPL, so somebody made a pico clone, published the source under the General Public License, and named it nano.
Pᵉtɘr Wᵉil8acher@astro_jcm When configured nicely a modern Alpine is still way faster to react and use than e.g. Thunderbird. There are very few mails with very complex HTML content that it does not handle well.
@PWei888 I need to give it a try!
enistello@astro_jcm Pine or Outlook/Gmail? I pine for Pine, to this day. The first email client I ever used, and still, albeit through the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia, a far superior "experience."
ferricoxide@astro_jcm
Alpine, though.
Alpine, though.
Gemma ⭐️🔰🇺🇸 🇵🇭 🎐@astro_jcm Wow, I haven't used pine in soooo many years. My first email client was actually graphical, all the way back in 1986, but after I left university, all I had was a shell account with a dialup ISP, so pine was it for bit.
sortius 
@astro_jcm I'm recovering from being sick right now, and I just had a shiver run down my spine while reading that. I couldn't remember where, but as soon as I saw the place it triggered horrible memories using it at Newcastle bloody Uni
🐜@astro_jcm pine rocked during da 1990s and esrly 2000s. Then i was forced 2 use mutt :(
@astro_jcm pine rocked during da 1990s and esrly 2000s. Then i was forced 2 use mutt :(
Irenes (many)@astro_jcm it's been ages. we miss it.
mausmalone@astro_jcm ah back in the days when college email was using telnet (not ssh!) to get a UNIX CLI on a DEC Alpha server.
Even those of us who had Thunderbird (or Eudora) set up on our own PCs needed to use Pine any time we wanted to check in on things from a computer lab.
@[email protected] i also first was using it with telnet, not ssh. the admins of free shell server were afraid of ssh, they told me back then that you can do lots of nasty stuff with it and they just allowed telnet. they already had a restricted shell but well.
good, that they isolated every dialup client but basically everyone who could connect to a phone line could sniff i guess. though i don't know exactly how.
also one of my former coworkers at his other work place where he was an admin, (that was a shipping company) forced all employees to ssh to the email server and use alpine in console. it was his measure to decrease probability of virus infections.
do you remember the vb viruses? there were a lot, and they were feeling very comfortable in outrook, their natural habitat.
it is sad to say but i know exactly two of my contacts that were persistently infected with outlook viruses and i knew i just have to delete most of emails from them. i told them of course but they could not fix the problem. the sad part is that it stopped when they switched to gmail and its web interface.
back to shipping company, i think when they were having an important attachment from out of their network theiy didn't have skills to transfer those so the administrator would do it for them.
otherwise they were using samba to exchange files between windows machines.
Jocelynephiliac 
@astro_jcm @astraluma it's so weird having nostalgia for fucking pine
@astro_jcm @astraluma (tbc, I'm talking about myself)
Chris 
DL9CE@astro_jcm But Pine is not Elm. 🤓
Loved it, good old times.
Rouge@astro_jcm
Still using it every day
Still using it every day
Nivex 🐧 📻@astro_jcm After seeing this I realized I still have alpine installed on my VPS and it still works.
Julia Clement@astro_jcm Unfortunately killed by the copyright owner changing the license in 1995 from a BSD style to one that prohibited redistribution of modified versions.
Unfortunately 10 years later XFree86 made a similar mistake changing the licence from the MIT one to something with an advertising clause. Once the dust had settled, we had a deaf XFree86 & a lively X.org
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" -- most likely writer and philosopher George Santayana
I wasn't worried, I used elm until I moved to a GUI based mail client.
Sebastian "spaetz" Spaeth@astro_jcm I believe I migrated from elm to pine, somewhere in the mid-90s 😊
Juhani K. Anttila 🌍 ⧖@astro_jcm I just closed my latest Alpine session 5 minutes ago. I still use it for my personal email.
I still have the same mail boxes there I've had since 1995.