I had to. Sorry / you're welcome.

@astro_jcm ah back in the days when college email was using telnet (not ssh!) to get a UNIX CLI on a DEC Alpha server.

Even those of us who had Thunderbird (or Eudora) set up on our own PCs needed to use Pine any time we wanted to check in on things from a computer lab.

@[email protected] i also first was using it with telnet, not ssh. the admins of free shell server were afraid of ssh, they told me back then that you can do lots of nasty stuff with it and they just allowed telnet. they already had a restricted shell but well.

good, that they isolated every dialup client but basically everyone who could connect to a phone line could sniff i guess. though i don't know exactly how.

also one of my former coworkers at his other work place where he was an admin, (that was a shipping company) forced all employees to ssh to the email server and use alpine in console. it was his measure to decrease probability of virus infections.

do you remember the vb viruses? there were a lot, and they were feeling very comfortable in outrook, their natural habitat.

it is sad to say but i know exactly two of my contacts that were persistently infected with outlook viruses and i knew i just have to delete most of emails from them. i told them of course but they could not fix the problem. the sad part is that it stopped when they switched to gmail and its web interface.

back to shipping company, i think when they were having an important attachment from out of their network theiy didn't have skills to transfer those so the administrator would do it for them.

otherwise they were using samba to exchange files between windows machines.

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