Is a humanitarian a person who only eats humans?
@Alice ethically sourced, of course

@Alice

too much logic will devour us all!! 😭

@LDivine @Alice but only the humans among us :)
@Alice Only human vegetarians. Ethically sourced, doncha know.
@Alice yes but only if they're free-range
@Alice I'm a vegetarian, but I also eat bread and cheese, so I guess humanitarians can have a nice sandwich.
@Alice Indeed, and a cannibal eats only cannonballs

@Alice

Someone who ALSO eats humans? Like, I'll have a soup and a Hum-burger... or something like that.

@Alice of course.

And Bob tastes particularly delicious this thanksgiving

interesting question @Alice!

whilst not my area of expertise, these are my 2¢ after googling shit:

cannibalism = eating the living tissue of the same species from any of the kingdoms of life.

edit re:

https://beige.party/@Gorfram/115625334242029556

cannibalism = eating the tissue of the same species from any of the kingdoms of life.

@Gorfram

The kingdoms of life are Animals, Plants, Fungi, Protists, and Monera.

humanitarianism = eating human flesh without killing anyone.

i made a diagram to hopefully clarify this:

edit 2 re:

https://aus.social/@whybird/115627001635707555

diagram modified:

@whybird

i would also be interested in @glasspusher's consideration on this matter.

@amiserabilist @Alice @glasspusher I yearn for time when chefs offer up their own cloned flesh as meat for the restaurant.
They rejected my The Bear script, they will come to regret that....

@Lazarou @Alice @glasspusher

"Yeah, well, I'm gonna go make my own award-winning comedy-drama series about chef who returns to his hometown, to manage his deceased brother's chaotic kitchen. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the kitchen."

@amiserabilist @Lazarou @Alice

Sorry, I’m full

@glasspusher

"It's only wafer-thin"

Mr Creosote is a fictional character who appears in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. He is a monstrously obese and vulgar restaurant patron who is served a vast amount of food and alcohol as he vomits repeatedly. After being persuaded to eat an after-dinner mint – "It's only wafer-thin" – he graphically explodes. The sequence opens the film's segment titled "Part VI: The Autumn Years".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Creosote

@Lazarou @Alice

@amiserabilist @Lazarou @Alice

Can we…can we have your liver?

@glasspusher @amiserabilist @Lazarou @Alice

I'm abusing it right now.

@coyoty @glasspusher @Lazarou @Alice

"the liver is evil and must be punished"

i was always skeptical about eating internal organs.

i love skin, fat and muscle but can't abide offal.

Monty Python - The Meaning of Life Live Organ Transplants

A scene of monty python's meaning of life, where a man donates his liver :D

YouTube

@glasspusher

sure, it looks like it flew across the room somewhere.

For drinks, Mr. Creosote has six bottles of Château Latour 1945, a Methuselah (double Jeroboam, or 6 litres) of champagne, and half a dozen crates of brown ale (144 bottles)—considerably less than his usual fare.

Château Latour
13%
750 ml
x6
=4500ml
=13*4500/1000=59u

champagne
12%
6l
=12*6000/1000=72u

brown ale
4.8%
568 ml
144 bottles
=81792ml
=4.8*81792/1000=393u

total=524u

@Lazarou @Alice

@amiserabilist @Alice @glasspusher
Wait, the *living* tissue? So, to avoid cannibalism, I just have to murder before I partake, rather than after I've had a nice chomp at someone?
@Gorfram @amiserabilist @Alice @glasspusher Per English law, R v Dudley and Stephens (1884), you have to wait for someone to die before you can eat them. Necessity does not justify murder. Outside the Queen's jurisdiction, have at it.

@Gorfram

you have raised a good point, and I have edited the post accordingly.

eating someone while they are still alive, vs dead.

wiki is not providing clarity on this matter.

my guess is cannibalism is cannibalism, irrespective of whether the subject is alive or dead.

@Alice @glasspusher @Lazarou

@amiserabilist @Alice @glasspusher @Lazarou
OTOH, there is only so much eating of living subjects that can be carried out before those subjects become dead. 😏

*I feel kind of bad now for twitting you over what was presumably a syntax/editing error. Please lmk if/when this ceases to be amusing to you, & I'll stop.

@Gorfram

not at all, this is the inane stuff i live for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOE-q20RcDM

@Gorfram

i think with good surgical technique +/- blood transfusions, you could eat a persons arms and legs leaving them viable.

@Alice @glasspusher @Lazarou

@amiserabilist @Gorfram @Alice @glasspusher @Lazarou there was a Steven king book about a surgeon marooned on a desert island who eventually starts to eat himself to survive.

@econads @whybird @Alice @amiserabilist @glasspusher @Lazarou
IIRC, there’s a kink out there where one partner roleplays consuming the other as if they were cannibalizing their partner’s living flesh.

*Really puts the “carnal” into “carnivore,” hunh?

@Gorfram @whybird @Alice @amiserabilist @glasspusher @Lazarou not like that episode of the IT crowd then
@whybird @Alice @amiserabilist @glasspusher @econads @Lazarou
Sadly, I’m not familiar with it
@Gorfram @whybird @Alice @amiserabilist @glasspusher @Lazarou Ah, well, now you're going to have to and watch the IT Crowd again, what a shame ;-)

@econads @amiserabilist @Gorfram @Alice @glasspusher @Lazarou

:-) Excellent, must get that Stephen King book!

There's a similar take in a book by Heinrich Heine, the 19th century poet and democratic writer in restauration Germany. In his brilliant 1834 book, The History of Religion and Philosophy in Germany, Heine gives this sarky summary of the core idea of philosopher JG Fichte:

"The 'I' performs reflective thinking about its own intellectual activity, at the same time as it does these very acts. This reminds us of the monkey that sits by the stove and boils its own tail in the copper pot. Why does the monkey do that? Because the true art of cooking consists not just of objectively doing the cooking, but of subjectively experiencing being cooked."

https://www.projekt-gutenberg.org/heine/religion/chap04.html

[My own free and unscholarly translation.]

#HeinrichHeine #JGFichte #CookingWhilstBeingCooked

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@Alice Egalitarians only eat eagles, also a disgusting practice.
@Alice Yes and they are quite tasty. (don't eat the old ones they can be a bit chewy)
@Alice No that's a Republican.
@Alice
Allegedly, your honor
@Alice
And fava beans and a nice chianti
@Alice Interesting thought!!
@Alice @SRDas I feel like this is a trick question.
@Alice I'M A SITUATIONAL HUMANITARIAN. IT'S LIKE LIVING ON GAS STATION FOOD.
@LRRRonEarth @Alice ARE WE TALKING ABOUT GAS STATION SANDWICHES OR GAS STATION SUSHI

@kwayk42 @Alice

LIKE, EXPIRED SLIM JIMS AND HOT DOGS WITH HAIR ON THEM.

@Alice I’m not falling for this again.
@Alice So a cannibal only eats tinned humans ?

@Alice Ppl aren't ready to talk about how consensual cannibalism is more ethical than carnism

#Cannibalism #Carnism #Speciesism

@ambiguous_yelp @Alice We do think that synthetic human meat is the only truly ethical type of meat to consume. Because the source human(s) can consent to providing muscle samples and it avoids killing. But we can see that idea becoming very unpopular.
@syntaxxor @Alice The idea exposes the core of speciesism, "its ok to do it to them because theyre in the outgroup but you cant do it to the ingroup thats weird and just plain wrong"
@ambiguous_yelp @Alice Which is largely rooted in the Christian belief of humans being "created in God's image" while the rest of the animals aren't. Humans are special and unique, you see? Holy and set apart from the filthy animals. Created separately from the others on the 6th day.
Which is just kinda gross and humans should get over themselves tbh

@Alice,

It was hard to be a vegetarian who had to pick bits of meat out of her teeth in the morning. She was definitely on top of it, though. Definitely, she reassured herself. It was Angua’s mind that prowled the night, not a werewolf mind. She was almost entirely sure of that. A werewolf wouldn’t stop at chickens, not by a long way. She shuddered. Who was she kidding? It was easy to be a vegetarian by day, It was preventing yourself becoming a humanitarian at night that took the real effort.

— “Feet of Clay” (Terry Pratchett)

@Alice The most ecologically virtuous meat, sure.