Gorgeous na Shock!
Church of Jeff
Doodles@jeffowski
We know... and we don't give.✌🏾
Kevin Steinmetz@jeffowski I don't like the #salvationArmy because it is based on religion.
Kevin Karhan 
@lisp @jeffowski also they are a bigotted anti-queer hate group!
addie@jeffowski deadass we can not have anything nice in the usa
PoloniousmonkThank you. Most people don't know this.
And fuck the Boy Scouts, too. Not literally, of course. "Father, when Jesus said, 'let the little children come up to me', that's not what he was talking about!"
Probably the girl scouts, too. I don't know enough about them.
J. R. DePriest 
:EA DATA. SF:@Uair @jeffowski Girl Scouts are apparently very inclusive.
🎄Merry Mastodonphan🎄@Uair @jeffowski Erm, ackshually, they're called the Scouts of America! Get woked, nurd!
Meanwhile: https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties
Krutonium://@Uair @jeffowski Do keep in mind that not all Boy Scouts are the same organization; Boy Scouts of America is a VERY different organization to Boy Scouts in Canada for example.
DragonBard@Uair @jeffowski Girl Scouts are lgbtq+ inclusive.
Manic Emo Dream Ghoul@Uair @jeffowski if it helps, Girl Guides are big on being inclusive of trans girls
Timothy Nibert
FirekeeperDon@jeffowski dig before you donate. Trust no banners, believe no manifestos. Vet, vet, vet.
DonCC
Antke Meintema@jeffowski. Not in the Netherlands. Although I am not religious I have a lot of sympathy for them because they house homeless psychiatric patients, often also intellectually disabled and addicted to all kind of substances. A very difficult group which a lot of helpers refuse to touch.
@Antke *edited as issue is resolved
@BigShellEvent I am sorry, I looked the word up at the internet. I will edit it. Thank you.
@Antke no worries and thank you for being so understanding 💖
Dewey Ritten @jeffowski as one of those queers they target, lemme tell ya I can handle their hatred. But those fucking bells...
Alexa Devreux-SwiftFuck the Salvation Army and their rabidly queerphobic bullshit
Mad Engineering@jeffowski Ah yes, the starvation army strikes again.
Totts10% of all money donated to the #Salvationarmy in the United Kingdom goes to 'Administration'.
Wheras the RSPCA only uses 1% for this
WesDym
The Tech Lord ⊕ `Lex PendragonCitation needed?
I always believed this, but I paused to fact check and the Salvation Army's website seems to think that's not the case:
https://www.salvationarmyusa.org/the-lgbtq-community-and-the-salvation-army/
I was about to send this to my christian friend (mostly to needle / 
him,) but I wanted to have my facts in hand before I do that. Do you have references for this?
I know their bible says to do that, but I also know most christians are bad at following their bible so they are eating cheeseburgers, shrimp, and aren't actually wishing death on homosexuals.
Rob Vincent 🎙️@LexPendragon @jeffowski There's definitely a complex and harmful history there, and they appear to have little interest in addressing it.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-salvation-armys-histo_b_4422938
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/salvation-army-transgender-discrimination/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnstaceyennis/2020/11/27/the-salvation-army-wants-you-to-believe-theyve-changed/
Whether or not they're any better nowadays, they definitely have a lot to answer for and they have yet to do so to any satisfactory degree.
The Salvation Army's History of Anti-LGBT Discrimination
Would-be donors should consider whether "doing the most good" might mean supporting one of the many other effective and reputable charities that provide for the needy without engaging in anti-gay beliefs, policies, or political activities.
@Rob_T_Firefly I don't give to them regardless, because "We are making an army of religious zealots" is how you get Taliban, Crusades, and 9/11s, but their current state seems to indicate they are in the "We know better, so we are going to do better" phase. I do not want to demonize something trying to do better. Is there indication that they are still actively trying to harm the LGBTQ+ community?
I am not asking because I doubt it, I am asking because I expect someone who does doubt it to ask me to "show my work".
@Rob_T_Firefly I want to be doubly clear:
I am not a fan, and advocate not giving to them.
Their own quote: "The Salvation Army has a mission statement which is very simple: to proclaim the gospel, to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, and meet human needs in his name, without discrimination. So that is why the Salvation Army serves everyone."
Outright put their their agenda and got before helping anyone, and that alone makes them bad at doing their self-assigned job, but that makes them generically horrible, not anti-queer horrible.
@LexPendragon I think it's on them to acknowledge their harm and prove they're doing better, and I don't see where they've shown any willingness to explicitly do so. The PR stuff on their webpage doesn't cut it for me.
I know they do good, but their wrongs are very much a matter of record and IMO they have to do a hell of a lot more to show receipts for progress and earn the trust they profess to deserve.
Atoning for wrongdoing is theoretically important for the Christian crowd. 
ideaPDishWell this does explain the origins of atonal music.
Volt4ire@ipd @Rob_T_Firefly @LexPendragon this is my favorite piece of atonal music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdccTOcX7o4
Madonna - Sorry (Official Video) [HD]
@volt4ire Hey, rollerskates!
@Rob_T_Firefly (PS. those links are a bit stale.)
You are literally citing the Salvation Army that they didn’t do anything wrong.
I bet you believe the cops when they investigate police brutality and say they found nothing.
That’s some really good research. 🙄
@jeffowski No, I do not, but I do want to have some more evidence of the wrongdoing before I repeat that it exists.
As I have been saying, I don't doubt that it exists, I was just asking for it.
Heath Borders@jeffowski I reminded my kids when we saw an add for them at my Mom's
nixFREAK@jeffowski too add matters worse, the Salvation Army pays itself first and also picks out all the donations first.
Steven Sandoval@jeffowski for a summary by a sarcastic atheist podcast: https://www.citationpod.com/the-salvation-army/