Just realized I forgot to post my annual advice to college students before the school year started – but well, it's never too late to start:

- GOING THE FUCK TO CLASS

- GOING THE FUCK TO BED

- DOING YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK

THIS IS THE MAGICAL TRINITY OF NOT HATING YOURSELF OR FEELING YOU'VE RUINED YOUR LIFE

YOU CAN ASK OTHERS FOR HELP

every time I post this I get a bunch of people well past the college phase of their life saying "this is good advice"/"wish I'd done that" and a bunch of people less than halfway through college saying "nahhhh, no need to do all that, because of xyz hyperspecific reason that applies at this exact instant" as they slam the accelerator towards a brick wall
@0xabad1dea It is good advice, I mostly did these but I wish I asked for help more. (I finished college over ten years ago.)

@0xabad1dea at some point a few years back I was advising a junior and I realized that if the roles were reversed I probably wouldn’t take the advice seriously.

Some things camnot be taught, they have to be learned first-hand.

@richardstephens @0xabad1dea I find in mentoring, you can only teach people what they already know. But hearing it from a mentor allows them to fully embrace what they already knew.

@0xabad1dea The funny thing is, one good bang of my head against the brick wall and I got the lesson PDQ... Once I realised I probably wasn't going to pass that EE class I changed majors so fast my grade card that quarter said CS. I mean, yeah, there went a dream, but if my brain wasn't up to the dream? well... these CS profs are nice and helpful and whatever and why am I still over here in EE getting shafted? There was never any ego in it. I guess I'm weird that way... that and I suppose, 20/20 hindsight, I was having too much fun with the computers to have _too_ many regrets leaving EE...

But yeah, I never thought I "knew better". I knew _damn well_ I didn't "know better"...

Funny thing, by the time I *did* think I knew better, I was damn well _right_. But that's a whole different story having little to do with college.

@0xabad1dea I went to university after 5 long years of being trained and then working as a banker. I had one. Single. Motivation: never having to return to a bank.

I treated my studies as my new 40-hour-workweek with crunch time at 80 hours. It paid off, I graduated top of my class *and* I had fun doing it.

The guys coming in directly after school? Most of them started partying hard and studying very little. Most didn't last long.

@Laird_Dave @0xabad1dea i wish skip year was more common in america, i feel like having a year relief from academia wouldve done me much better to focus on college

but my parents were pretty... uh... abusive about me taking a year off

@fairydoctor @Laird_Dave @0xabad1dea

That point about skip year is good. When you graduate HS you've had, what, 8 - 10 years straight of classes and are signing up for 4 more of yet harder classes.

One other thing I'd suggest that hasn't come up yet is that people should read all their textbooks the whole way through. Not take notes and memorize, but just read the whole thing at least once so you vaguely know what's in it and can fit the lessons in class into a greater context.

@0xabad1dea in last year. "wish I had done that sooner" 🫠
@0xabad1dea how much you should be skipping class is a function of how good you are at your field and how well youll be spending the time you gained by skipping

@0xabad1dea For the record, I am a college professor who boosted your OP because it is 6000% correct and I am telling my students these things all the time.

(You said “trinity,” but imo the last one is the most important of all: you can ask for help. Even if you are not going to class and not sleeping and not doing your homework, you can still ask for help. Maybe especially if.)

@0xabad1dea I realised this at the end of second year and fortunately it was enough to pick my grades up in final year. Wish I'd done a bit more in second but so glad I kicked myself up the ass for third

@0xabad1dea Yup.

By the time I finished my degree I was pretty sure I could pass any exam in any subject - even ones I wasn't studying... but part of the formula was "go to every single class, take notes, and understand them".

So I guess that's kindof contradictory.

I'd also recommend keeping your ears wide open for the lecturer mentioning books outside the curriculum, reading them, then name-dropping them in essays/exams etc.

@0xabad1dea hating yourself just a little bit is ok.
@0xabad1dea gotta at least hit an event or 2.
@0xabad1dea what about: going to office hours? I regret not doing that when I was in school. Free 1:1 time with a person who wants to help young people learn! Why did I pass that up
@0xabad1dea if I'd followed this I might have a degree
@0xabad1dea Might I add: check out your course material! Ideally more than a week before the exam, there might be some teaching concept hidden in the curriculum!

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I usually find that giving that advice at the start of the year does little good: before the first assignment, EVERY student is perfect in their hearts and has vowed that This Year I Will Be Good.

I tried to schedule my advice on 'how to homework' for about a quarter of the way through the first semester.

Still didn't work, but I felt they were hearing it more.

@0xabad1dea My mom was the first person in her family (Canadian farmers) to ever go to college

She left school because she did not realize you could get help, or even drop classes if you were having trouble. She was just like, I failed some tests, guess that’s it

@0xabad1dea woulda made my first attempt at college a success, rather than needing a third to actually graduate
@0xabad1dea during college we have three options, but only two can be done at the same time. Options: get good grades, sleep, party.

@0xabad1dea Also:

IF YOU FEEL LONELY, GET OUT OF YOUR DORM ROOM AND GO BE AROUND PEOPLE!

MAKE CONNECTIONS!

BE WISE WITH HOW YOU SPEND YOUR TIME, MONEY AND ENERGY!

EXPLORE NEW THINGS!

YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH YOUR PROFESSORS!

JOIN A CLUB OR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY IF YOU HAVE THE TIME.

FRESHMAN 15 IS REAL. MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY AND WATCH WHAT YOU EAT.

YOUR PARENTS/GUARDIANS NOT BEING ON CAMPUS WITH YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE INVINCIBLE.

YOU ARE AN ADULT.

YOU HAVE MORE 2 LEARN

@0xabad1dea @stonebear2 violating these may not fuck everything up for you, kids, but it sure did for me.

@rmd1023 @0xabad1dea Oh, one more thing! Admit it when the math is over your fucking head... and choose a major with helpful profs!

(that's how I went from electrical engineering, with Difficult Equations, to computer science, which is all ones and zeroes. (Well, and a little bit of probability and statistics - which we called Probably Sadistic, but it really wasn't actually that bad...) But yeah. EE and 17 hours had me at 2.0. CS and 12 hours had me a social life, a girlfriend, and a 3.4. DON'T BURN YOURSELF OUT.)

(OH, YEAH. Do NOT try to work full time, or even part-time, on a Seriously Full Load. If you need to work during class terms, limit yourself to minimum courseload. Ideally, get a job that helps your coursework. Or do the thing where you alternate quarters, one working full time for as big a bucks as you can get, one JUST doing school. That both will get you done AND look good on your CV. (That's "resume" in American.) )

I'm open to questions on these subjects, because I did not forget what it's like to be a Damn Poor Rat and not know what the fuck you're doing... and I will pay my hard-earned wisdom forward if I can. F this hazing of frosh, I want to HELP.

@0xabad1dea

Down here we're wrapping up the school year and guess what? Still goddamn good advice. Some fucked-up situations are unfuckable even with just a few weeks remaining.

@0xabad1dea This. Alla this, and one other key takeaway that I learned on my second run through college: if you're not a morning person, DON'T TAKE MORNING CLASSES. Your chances of attending class regularly will significantly improve if you don't pick any classes before, say, 10:00 a.m. (or at least as few as your major will allow).

@Soozcat @0xabad1dea

THIS. You may THINK you're a morning person, but there will COME A DAY when you are most definitely NOT. I was all about oh-g-ddess-ugly in the morning classes until my sixth quarter, when I had 3D integral calculus at 0800 with a prof whose English was... marginal...

And my body said NO. You're NOT DOING THIS ANYMORE.

Could NOT stay awake, could NOT understand well enough to do well. Damn near flunked.

I got better!

@0xabad1dea Not going to classes, skipping on homework, and hoping I could "wing" exams lead to me dropping out of my Master's degree.

I can't emphasize enough how good this advice right here is. You don't need to be a smart genious on the dean's list to make it through college. You just need to be there and do the work. That's a lot more important than being clever.

@0xabad1dea That last one is critical. Nearly everyone in my freshman orientation at USC had either been Valedictorian or Salutatorian of their High School and didn't want to seem "unqualified" by asking for help.
@ChuckMcManis @0xabad1dea my mom related this experience when she went to school, that it was a big adjustment because she had always been the smartest person in the class throughout her whole school life but was only middle of the pack as an adult learner
@0xabad1dea I tell students this every year! About half of them listen.
@0xabad1dea How to sleep 8 hours in 2 hours : A college student guide
@catsalad @0xabad1dea
1) drink coffee. No, more coffee. A bit more.
@0xabad1dea graduated over a decade ago can i still start this now
@0xabad1dea especially the librarians.
@0xabad1dea
Also, after the initial adjustment period, try to keep eating balanced meals. Your brain is working *hard*, treat it as well as you can.
@0xabad1dea also remember to eat and do your laundry.

@0xabad1dea

I'd suggest "don't go to a college where the incoming freshman class is bigger than the town you came from" and "actually read the damn syllabus" and "go to office hours once during your time in the class, it can be pretty cool."

@0xabad1dea Also, go to office hours. Build a relationship with your professors and your TAs. Your professors set aside that time for you, so they will be bored if you do not come in.

Ask them for help with anything that is unclear in class, or how to study for the exam. If you don't have any particular questions, ask them about their research. People like talking about themselves.

If you run into issues later, they will be more willing to help you out. This is also a good way to set yourself up to get good letters of recommendation or a summer job.

@0xabad1dea well what if I do all of this and still hate myself... Out of spite.

@0xabad1dea

YOU CAN ASK OTHERS FOR HELP

Social anxiety.

PLUS

  • Use appropriate language in school environments :)

@0xabad1dea i was kicked out of college the first time for a "prior existing medical condition" and had been trying to get back into college for the last 12 years

briefly in 2019, i went to a community college to try again. i was barely holding it together (doing the above advice) despite my ailments, and then the pandemic hit. and then the west coast fires hit the same year

@0xabad1dea i essentially gave up on college until this year. after having the exps of the last 12 yrs, including some familiarity of college operations-- this semester im averaging a B+, despite being late on a few assignments (i email the professor immediately, im professional, and blunt with what's holding me up)

TLDR for anyone cruising the thread: put in the work and just talk to your professor when stuck

@0xabad1dea

YOU CAN ASK OTHERS FOR HELPAs a junior, I'm still working on this, especially for classes and activities outside my major where I feel like my questions are things that everyone "should" know, but the more I do it the easier it gets.

@0xabad1dea This dovetails with mine: you don't have to start your night out at 10. Eat at 6. Start drinking at 7. Entertainment/activity at 8. Check if sex maybe happening at 10. Home in bed (for sleep) by 1130 either way.
@0xabad1dea Hmm. I had to get a full time job (during graveyard shift) and come to class after work. Some professors were openly affronted, saying that if I needed to work to afford going to college, I should not even be there.
@0xabad1dea thank you i need to apply advice #2 right now
@0xabad1dea go to office hours! even if you don’t have a question, start some of the easy hw there and the questions might/will come up!
@0xabad1dea I did those 3 things and it still went badly for me, sad
@0xabad1dea
- Nobody cares how long it takes to get a degree. Take less than the suggested credit hours.
- Protect the GPA. If you're not getting an A, drop the class. Don't accept a B until after your first internship. Never let it drop below 3.5. Most companies round file < 3.5 automatically.
- Get an internship or on campus relevant job ASAP. Some companies wont hire an intern unless you *already* had an internship.
- Your advisor and class pre-reqs are generally shit. Rate my proff FTW.
@0xabad1dea
- your lab partner will be an illiterate idiot taking 18 hours. Don't expect them to be useful. They'll probably use ChatGPT anyways.
- Nobody gives a shit about homework. Best proffs give you solutions. Use Chegg not for the answers, but for how to solve actual problems instead of the in class puff pieces.
- Youtube has tons of help now, even for advanced classes.
- Office hours are irrelevant. Even with a lighter load most will conflict. Most proffs are OK with emails.

@0xabad1dea
Tiara's scene here is also very relevant.

“I was top of my class in junior high, you know. That’s why I came to Tsuwabuki—to rub elbows and improve alongside people who are like me.” She laughed at herself. “It was silly, looking back. To assume that everyone would have the same starting line. We all passed the same exam, so I thought, surely… But that was never the case. No one’s born equal. My best is someone else’s normal.”

@0xabad1dea made the mistake of doing none of these things in my freshman year and the end result was me sobbing in the shower
You don't want to hit that low trust me

@0xabad1dea Instructions unclear, I have no class, don't sleep, and am always behind.

Oh, wait, I'm not in college any more. I'm in my thirties and I have a kid.

@0xabad1dea 🤣Kids, 1 word call distractions. Word used to be called FAD. Who can keep up?