ETSC: Mutual recognition deal ...
They buy them. They will drive them into medieval cities that were built around horse&cart. They will demand bigger parking spots.
It's up to the cities to fend them off.
@brenttoderian.bsky.social the ultimate irony is they’re not safer as they have not got crumple zones and have passed no safety or stability tests because under US law they are exempt over 1.5 tonnes. A few people have managed to bring them in as personal imports, but they cannot be sold commercially here because they don’t satisfy our safety standards.
Which is a roundabout way of saying they’re death traps
You are absolutely right about the relentlessness of American automobile ads.
This I snapped from that other site before Exploding Rocket Man took it over.
@brenttoderian.bsky.social eww so cybertrucks coming to Europe
🤮🤮🤮🤮
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Those are classified as light trucks in the USA, right?
So you’d need an according commercial vehicle driver’s license (C1, has to be renewed every 5 years with medical check-up), regardless weight, as the classification is also transferred, right?
@vampirdaddy @brenttoderian.bsky.social they are just classed by weight. It'd be a stretch to invent a new class just to catch these vehicles, but not panel vans.
I guess they could insist that if the vehicle is capable of carrying a large payload, then the VIN plate must allow for a minimum proportion of that capacity. They've done similar for motorhomes. It would also stop 7.5t Iveco vans from being plated at 3.5t to avoid tachograph and driving time restrictions.
@guigsy @brenttoderian.bsky.social
The vehicles conforming to EU standards are classified in the EU by weight.
But if the EU accepts US certifications then maybe also the corresponding US classifications (independent of the EU weight classes)?
I'm just looking for possible vectors of malice compliance.
@vampirdaddy @brenttoderian.bsky.social Not sure, but I think it's more messed up than that. There's vehicle classes which determine the safety requirements and periodic testing, and the "road tax" class. I think the US Light Truck is equivalent to these classes.
But the driver's license is mostly broken down by the number of wheels, weight and towing. Which doesn't actually neatly match the vehicle classes.
I guess the individual countries could set a very high road tax?
This is an INSANE decision by the E.U. “By signing up to mutual recognition of vehicle standards with the U.S., the E.U. has waved the white flag on road safety. This is not a technical detail – it is a political choice that puts trade convenience ahead of saving lives.” This will kill people. https://etsc.eu/etsc-mutual-recognition-deal-with-u-s-will-cost-lives-on-europes-roads/
@brenttoderian.bsky.social Oh dear. What is the Council of Europe thinking?
EU standards, in particular safety standards, is one of the best things about the EU.
TOTAL EU FAIL THIS WILL KILL
“Allowing American vehicles onto the EU market under ‘mutual recognition’ of standards betrays Europe’s safety leadership, it will cost lives.
European narrow roads and gigantic, under-regulated U.S. pick-up trucks and SUVs –
Mass and energy are different forms of the same thing
Massive us vehicles will annihilate
lighter normal size cars which are most driven in EU,
Surprise
Not what the rich and Politicians drive.
@brenttoderian.bsky.social does this mean I get to have a car that doesn't wiggle the steering wheel and beep at me every 100 meters?
I want one
(not really, #sarcasm)