Amazing moment of realization captured.
@PastaThief look mum, I'm vibe coding!
@PastaThief It's not vibe coding. It's all just code vibing.
@PastaThief Vibe coding is to real coding as Guitar Hero is to actually knowing how to play.
@c_dan4th Vibe Coders don’t want to learn how to play. They don’t care about notes and chords and centuries of music theory. They’re not interested in the how and why. They just want results. @PastaThief
@cgudrian @c_dan4th @PastaThief they don't even really care about the music, they just want the same applause good musicians get at the end of a performance
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At least with guitar hero you need a sense of rhythm. Also, you have to practice to get good
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Even this poor guy's experience is better than the ones who think they have a viable product and go live only to find security holes and vulns everywhere.
@PastaThief Oh wow, person realises that years of study and experience are valuable.
WTH is “vibe coding”? Is it like stream of consciousness and relying on AI to make something of it? Sounds like some weird sh*t.
@DarkMatterZine @PastaThief Coding by proxy with a probabilistic English-to-[your actual programming language] compiler.
@DarkMatterZine @PastaThief Basically you drive ChatGPT or Claude, and the LLM writes the code. Like driving a car from the back seat.
@hosford42 @DarkMatterZine @PastaThief "no! The other left!"
@f4grx @DarkMatterZine @PastaThief Pretty much how it works, based on watching a friend of mine try to do it. lol
@shelldozer @hosford42 @DarkMatterZine @PastaThief I gave little thought to this joke but it surprisingly has more meaning that I initially thought :)
@hosford42 @PastaThief those who use AI will eventually get their FAFO moment.
@hosford42 @PastaThief I’m translating that as “I write in my language and rely on AI to do the actual coding”. Which would obviously be a disaster. People will learn one way or another. Major Australian bank announced AI voice bot instead of customer service. It flopped. They’ve backtracked and offered ppl their jobs back apparently. IMO that is only one example of FAFO relating to ai.
@DarkMatterZine @PastaThief You've got the right idea, and yeah, it doesn't work. Watching my friend try to do it, it's like someone wrestling with an octopus.
@hosford42 @PastaThief I can imagine. I don’t really code myself although I’ve learnt a few basics running a website (code or be coded). But I’m married to an IT guy so I’ve picked up some of the dynamics via osmosis. Eg notating code, simple coding is best, etc. He’s been told his code is elegant, easy to review etc.
@PastaThief @emily “makes me think vibe coding is just roleplay for guys who want to feel like hackers without doing the hard part.” 💯👏
@PastaThief oh noes, you actually have to know a thing to do a thing! 😮
@PastaThief Also, is that vibe font rendering in the screenshot 
@PastaThief i hope they do security this way next

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At least, the developers got some specs 😂

@PastaThief "role play coding" sound so much more accurate :o
@PastaThief do i have a great game for every vibe coder who feels like this, just play Hacknet, you'll feel like a hacker from the movies and the cost is less than hiring a programmer for even an hour 😁

@PastaThief "roleplay for guys who want to feel like hackers without doing the hard part"

well, yes. this is so accurate that I think he doth protest too much, as it were.

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Simulated intelligence gives you simulated code — you know, like the lines they put on the screen in Hollywood movies. That being said, if you know what you’re doing Claude and co. can give you a hacky starting point for debugging and fleshing out.

@PastaThief all true…but hey, that moment of roleplay is kinda cool ain’t it?
@PastaThief Ya mean there’s no free lunch? 🤔

@PastaThief Have several plumbing issues in your house? Tell our AI powered vibe plumbing robot about them, and it will... well it will do something. Just make sure to hire a licenced plumber afterward to fix what it doesn't get quite right.

Call today! You totally won't regret vibe plumbing your house.

@PastaThief some gold in replies too, like the self-proclaimed developer with 20 years of experience saying LLMs boosted their productivity 4x, while having recently asked on reddit how to use git
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"I can't vibe my way through debugging" :) What a time to be alive.
@PastaThief only studied, professional devs should be allowed to code.
@PastaThief I don't do this often, but I was stuck on a bug in some analysis I was doing in Colab yesterday. After beating back Google Gemini doing its best Clippy impression for long enough, I asked Claude for help. Then I had to debug both Claude's code as well as my own.

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Vibe coding is an artificial intelligence-assisted software development

When frameworks came out and job seekers thought all there was to programming was a slick UI (wrong) it was bad times. Keeping a half a million lines of code in my head to maintain and add functionality is programming. Vibe coding is misleading and costly in ruining the expectations and education of new coders and that it later requires experienced programmers to fix instead of doing real work.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

#ai #vibecoding #Programming #genAI

@PastaThief You should not hand over tasks you cannot control yourself.
That predates vibe-coding by centuries.
@PastaThief Reading this post has put about 5 years on my life. ☺️