Ryan Castellucci (they/them) Jul 23, 2025

My Android phone just performed a forced, unauthorized OS update, removing root access in the process.

Despite automatic updates being explicitly disabled.

The tech industry's understanding of "consent" is contemptuous.

"No" means "no", not "maybe later", or "unless you think you know better".

Show threadmaexchen1Jul 23, 2025

@ryanc

Why don't you install an #opensource #Android?

Pay attention to it the next time you buy. ( #fairphone etc.)

Show threadSibachianJul 23, 2025
@maexchen1 @ryanc Because for many that's simply not an option due to mandatory digital national ID relying on google or apple services for verification.
Show threadRené Seindal (MOVED)Jul 23, 2025

@Beiz @maexchen1 @ryanc

Italian national ID works on non Google Android, so it is possible.

It is not a technical issue, so a political choice.

Show threadlorenzobrgJul 23, 2025
@seindal @Beiz @maexchen1 @ryanc if you are referring to Graphene OS or LineageOS, IO app dosn't allow documents on non Google devices. Yes, it's a disgusting political/economical decision. Upcoming EU app is also expected to require SafetyNet.
Show threadmxkJul 23, 2025
@lollo004 @seindal @Beiz @maexchen1 @ryanc and if not for ID-apps, at least in Germany most bank accounts/credit cards will also force you to own either an iOS or a safetynet attested Android phone.
Show threadmaexchen1Jul 23, 2025

@mxk

You can choose your banks.

There are several that work in the browser.

I also don't understand why everything has to run in app.

Every additional app weakens the overall system and controlling the data becomes a hell of a ride.

More #DigitalSelfDefense please

#DigitalConstraint
#DataProtection
#Datenschutz #digitalzwang
#DigitaleSelbstverteidigung

@lollo004 @seindal @Beiz @ryanc

Show threadmxk
@maexchen1 it's an extremely privileged position to assume that this should be everyone's only criteria for choosing their bank.
And while there still is some chance for banks, for credit cards and reasonably priced depots the selection is a lot smaller.
And there is zero guarantee that a bank account that is usable without being forced to use a certain app as an authenticator, will continue to work that way in the future.
Jul 23, 2025 at 12:41pmWeb