@Uglesett Helt enig, men den utm source er jo ikke så gale da. Tenker da på nyhetspublikasjoner som legger ut linker her på Mastodon, gjerne har utm source = Mastodon. Det er jo greit for å få synliggjort Mastodon som en tjeneste å satse på.
Men det kan vel hende at det blir overflødig med Mastodon versjon 4.4?
Attached: 1 image Med Mastodon 4.4 kom også muligheten for en instans til å vises som referanse i Google Analytics og lignende analyseverktøy. Dette gir en økt mulighet for å synliggjøre bruken av Mastodon for markedsførere og lignende, dette kan oppfattes som bra eller dårlig alt etter prioriteringene til instansen. Det er ingenting ved denne nye muligheten som sender videre personlige data utover at kilden er (feks) "mikrobloggen.no". Vi på Mikrobloggen har for øyeblikket valgt å slå denne innstillingen på.
Everything after the "?" symbol can be removed without issue
Uhhhh not really
That also has stuff like timestamps. And in some links, such as on youtube.com/watch?v=videocode, the actually important part of the link is also after the ? (as opposed to on youtu.be/videocode).
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v indicates which video it is, list indicates which playlist it is, t indicates the timestamp. Granted, this isn't a youtu.be link, but only because that one already removes playlist, so it's not useful for sharing videos with their context intact.
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/clearurls/
It's available both on desktop and on Android.
@Tock I just change the value after pp= to tiny.
No I'm not 12.
That's not tracking.
The link to the video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsiKUsrqFkc
the "&list=" means the video is part of a playlist - there are other videos following it.
t=52 means start the video 52seconds in. If you remove "&t=52" it just starts from the beginning
@alice @Uglesett @luana With YouTube specifically you need to look for that si= part, the Share ID. In URLs with multiple ampersanded sections you can usually just pull the troublemaker. Unfortunately these are often idiosyncratic to different sites.
Easier: use Firefox, and when you go to grab the link use the “copy clean link” in the right-click menu.
I post the pure video link, taking the time to strip the way all the the tracking information and what not.
I think the main point of the original post was to make people aware of tracking information in shared links.
Generally, if you click on a share button, it’s going to add tracking information to it.
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⟩si or utm or source or ref does the trick those 4 are all ive ever seen lol @luana @Uglesett I'm glad someone said it! I thought it was an issue, and checked with the share button (producing a youtu.be link) and thought "huh, I must have been wrong, that person on the Internet seems to be saying it with a high degree of confidence and my quick check agrees"
(Obviously I would notice if I was actually editing a YouTube URL and removing all references to what I was linking to, I would hope...)
@me @Uglesett @luana Some sites like fb, reddit and stackoverflow produce special share links that aren't just a link to the article, the link is unique to the person sharing it.
When I get a link like that, I'll look up the canonical URL before sharing it further. It's not only a privacy issue, it's a special case of the URL shortener issue and messes up our collective internet heritage, as it is very unlikely that URL will be resolvable ten years from now, and the internet archives and national libraries out there won't know that personalized URL.
@MeDueleLaTeta @Uglesett yeah the "everything after ?" statement isn't exactly correct.
But to your other point. While you won't block all tracking this way (not even close), all bits help. It's not a bad thing to clean links from unneeded parameters.
@gimulnautti @Uglesett The & is just a delimiter and (as of right now) Youtube will strip a trailing & out. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_string)
As another post has mentioned, there are other parameters you might want to preserve in Youtube links.
@Uglesett Like the old saying from the 1930's:
"If its after the question mark, yeet it into the dark"
Public service announcement.
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@Uglesett Helt enig, men den utm source er jo ikke så gale da. Tenker da på nyhetspublikasjoner som legger ut linker her på Mastodon, gjerne har utm source = Mastodon. Det er jo greit for å få synliggjort Mastodon som en tjeneste å satse på.
Men det kan vel hende at det blir overflødig med Mastodon versjon 4.4?
Attached: 1 image Med Mastodon 4.4 kom også muligheten for en instans til å vises som referanse i Google Analytics og lignende analyseverktøy. Dette gir en økt mulighet for å synliggjøre bruken av Mastodon for markedsførere og lignende, dette kan oppfattes som bra eller dårlig alt etter prioriteringene til instansen. Det er ingenting ved denne nye muligheten som sender videre personlige data utover at kilden er (feks) "mikrobloggen.no". Vi på Mikrobloggen har for øyeblikket valgt å slå denne innstillingen på.
Everything after the "?" symbol can be removed without issue
Uhhhh not really
That also has stuff like timestamps. And in some links, such as on youtube.com/watch?v=videocode, the actually important part of the link is also after the ? (as opposed to on youtu.be/videocode).
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Juho Mäntysalov indicates which video it is, list indicates which playlist it is, t indicates the timestamp. Granted, this isn't a youtu.be link, but only because that one already removes playlist, so it's not useful for sharing videos with their context intact.v=IsiKUsrqFkc&list=PLvoAL-KSZ32dRMGLza8Dw4xZK6_1ItjNr&t=52 - will not show the intended video - https://www.youtube.com/watch is not a video URL. Time is also important - I might be linking to a specific point in a 4h video, for example.This #Firefox extension, #ClearURLs, removes tracking junk from URLs:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/clearurls/
It's available both on desktop and on Android.
@Tock I just change the value after pp= to tiny.
No I'm not 12.
That's not tracking.
The link to the video is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsiKUsrqFkc
the "&list=" means the video is part of a playlist - there are other videos following it.
t=52 means start the video 52seconds in. If you remove "&t=52" it just starts from the beginning
@alice @Uglesett @luana With YouTube specifically you need to look for that si= part, the Share ID. In URLs with multiple ampersanded sections you can usually just pull the troublemaker. Unfortunately these are often idiosyncratic to different sites.
Easier: use Firefox, and when you go to grab the link use the “copy clean link” in the right-click menu.
I post the pure video link, taking the time to strip the way all the the tracking information and what not.
I think the main point of the original post was to make people aware of tracking information in shared links.
Generally, if you click on a share button, it’s going to add tracking information to it.
id and vsi or utm or source or ref does the trick those 4 are all ive ever seen lol @luana @Uglesett I'm glad someone said it! I thought it was an issue, and checked with the share button (producing a youtu.be link) and thought "huh, I must have been wrong, that person on the Internet seems to be saying it with a high degree of confidence and my quick check agrees"
(Obviously I would notice if I was actually editing a YouTube URL and removing all references to what I was linking to, I would hope...)
@me @Uglesett @luana Some sites like fb, reddit and stackoverflow produce special share links that aren't just a link to the article, the link is unique to the person sharing it.
When I get a link like that, I'll look up the canonical URL before sharing it further. It's not only a privacy issue, it's a special case of the URL shortener issue and messes up our collective internet heritage, as it is very unlikely that URL will be resolvable ten years from now, and the internet archives and national libraries out there won't know that personalized URL.
@MeDueleLaTeta @Uglesett yeah the "everything after ?" statement isn't exactly correct.
But to your other point. While you won't block all tracking this way (not even close), all bits help. It's not a bad thing to clean links from unneeded parameters.
@gimulnautti @Uglesett The & is just a delimiter and (as of right now) Youtube will strip a trailing & out. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_string)
As another post has mentioned, there are other parameters you might want to preserve in Youtube links.
@Uglesett Like the old saying from the 1930's:
"If its after the question mark, yeet it into the dark"