Dozer / Christian
Daniel GibertI just made this silly but accurate thing. I'm silly too and i love it, but also i'm serious in my silliness.
Simon@danielgibert I love it. But I believe in this case it's not 'european', it's 'literally every country except that single stupid one we don't talk about'
njsg@realsimon @danielgibert My guess is that it's (at least) all countries that have signed to the Vienna Convention. Also, the background of the right side ones can be yellow.
Greg Pfeil@njsg But can the banana be yellow?
Nishcott
Gregory@njsg @realsimon @danielgibert the yellow background means that this sign is temporary and has priority over the white-background ones
SchwarzeLocke@grishka @njsg @realsimon @danielgibert oh, just like on the ground, where the yellow lines are temporary overruling the white lines, here in Germany.
Júbilo MX@SchwarzeLocke @grishka @njsg @realsimon @danielgibert the three Countries in North America 🇲🇽 🇨🇦 🇺🇸 need the red diagonal in the restrictive ones... and at least in Canada the obligatory/allow one has a green circle (haven't drive enough in the US to confirm that) and that's not a thing in Mexico
https://mstdn.ca/@jubiloMX/114281156300539608
https://mstdn.ca/@jubiloMX/114281156300539608
teledyn 𓂀@jubiloMX @SchwarzeLocke @grishka @njsg @realsimon @danielgibert
And sometimes a banana is just a banana
Anna Freud
Lux 
@njsg @realsimon @danielgibert the famous "you can't eat a banana... for now" and "caution! A temporary banana!"
Robin ╰(ಠ_ಠ✿)╯@realsimon @danielgibert … Australia?
(these are barely recognisable to me, and even then, only the right-hand ones)
jack@buzzyrobin @realsimon @danielgibert fond memories of trundling along the Bass Highway and spotting a sign which said, in all caps, something like
"LANE MARKINGS REMOVED DO NOT OVERTAKE UNLESS IT IS SAFE TO DO SO"
which was to me a breathtaking statement of the bloody obvious, and completely oblivious to the average driver's reading comprehension while travelling at highway speed
Thomas Lumley@jackeric @buzzyrobin @realsimon @danielgibert my favorite old Aus road signs were the ones saying "Loose Stones Travel Slowly", which would make a good meaningless proverb
mcSlibinas
Chris Cooke@tslumley @jackeric @buzzyrobin @realsimon @danielgibert Reminds me of the British road signs like SLOW CHILDREN and HEAVY PLANT CROSSING
Rob van Kan
1000millimeter@edgeofeurope @baz @tslumley @jackeric @buzzyrobin @realsimon @danielgibert Maybe hire fast men the next time
@baz @jackeric @buzzyrobin @realsimon @danielgibert and someone needs to mention the Ogden Nash poem based on the US signs like
Soft
C A U T I O N
Shoulders
and
Cross
C H I L D R E N
Walk
Bugbear Butch
Blackcap@realsimon @danielgibert Not to mention Canada and Mexico and how most of South America is a mix of MUTCD and Vienna Convention style signs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_MUTCD-influenced_traffic_signs
@blackcap @realsimon @danielgibert IT ISN'T EVEN THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE US?
I wasn't aware if this.
(And funny, just entered Denmark via train, saw road signs next to the tracks, and thought it's interesting they are all similar in other countries. Just a few minutes after, I saw this thread and learned about vienna convention.)
@1000millimeter @realsimon @danielgibert It's pretty darn similar throughout the USA, though different states do have variant signs. But it's subtle differences. They all look very MUTCD-like. You would in no way mistake the signage in any US state for Europe.
Baloo Uriza@realsimon Not quite! While the EU fairly consistently uses Vienna Convention signs, Canada uses American style signs. Argentina, most of central America, Mexico and Australia use a mix of Vienna Convention signs and American signs with a few creative liberties taken with their own additions.
Also the most bizarre thing about this is the US pretty much wrote the Vienna Convention solo, then failed to adopt it.
Alan Grant@BalooUriza @realsimon @danielgibert Ireland, despite being in the EU, never signed the Vienna Convention and pretty much follows that approach too ("mix of Vienna Convention signs and American signs with a few creative liberties taken with their own additions").
Hence the proliferation of yellow warning signs I mentioned in a different reply.
Having lived in Spain for many years, Irish road signs seem weird to me when I go back, but of course seemed perfectly normal when I grew up with them.
irina 🐇🌷
@BalooUriza other than some very minor differences (biggest being "give way" instead of "yield", and UK speed limit signs) Australia pretty well follows MUTCD - not really a "mix of both"
@irina Australia's speed limit signs are actually Vienna Convention signs painted onto American blanks. They really split the difference there.
@BalooUriza @irina I found it comparatively hard to spot Australian speed limit signs because of the rectangular outline - the round outline stands out from the surroundings more
@jackeric Being American, the shape is immediately recognizable for me, as it's the same aspect ratio and orientation as our speed limit signs. My understanding is Australia initially reprinted the existing blanks during the switch to metric as a cost cutting measure but I don't know why they then kept making speed limit signs on American blanks.
Geert Uytterhoeven@BalooUriza @realsimon @danielgibert The Québécois "ARRÊT"-sign doesn't look American-style to me.
(FWIW it also differs from the "STOP"-sign as used in France ;-)
(FWIW it also differs from the "STOP"-sign as used in France ;-)
The Lack ThereofYeah that's because we standardized back in 1920's, and what we standardized ON was basically whatever guerilla signage various auto clubs had been putting was most popular in the 1910’s
We tried adopting Vienna Convention signage in the 1970's but the trial was an unmitigated disaster, so instead we settled for slowly updating the MUTCD to start replacing text on signs with symbols. The only remaining vestiges of the attempt are a handful of rare signs with metric units.
Jeff GriggWe wouldn't because no one would put a banana up next to the sign for a size comparison! No we could understand those "kilos" of "meters" or whatever! 😢
@JeffGrigg @realsimon @danielgibert kilometer is just kilogram of meters. Idk why it's hard to understand 🤔
Erik@realsimon @danielgibert accurate 😆
Amélie 
@realsimon @danielgibert it's every country that sign the vienna convention. Plus all the others who didn't want to re invent the wheel
AASHTO planthi! lots of countries don't use the vienna convention! canada, essentially all of latin america and the caribbean, australia and NZ, southern africa, among others.
just because the united states does something doesn't mean it's wrong, and also doesn't mean it's the only country on the planet that does it.
Iris Young (he/they/she) (PhD)@danielgibert this is great and I appreciate it for both its informational and its entertainment value.
Ike@iris @danielgibert Just to confirm my understanding... the circle around the banana is no eating a banana?
They don't put a diagonal slash through it?
What kind of driving symbols might be in the middle of the red circle?
Damian Von Beubars
Galder Gonzalez 
@DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert if nothing is there, only the red circle, means "circulation prohibited". Normally there's no need of a diagonal red bar, but sometimes it is added, like in "forbidden to turn left".
@theklan @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert In at least some signs, the diagonal can be used, but is optional
Vlad@njsg @theklan @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert
If it's a gray diagonal, it can mean "you can now eat bananas again".
Peter Brown@DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert fine, but speed limits and weight limits are not prohibitions. They are limits.
A prohibition would be no cycling or no pedestrians or no smoking. And they all have slashes through them.
A prohibition would be no cycling or no pedestrians or no smoking. And they all have slashes through them.
Jens N@peterbrown @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert
A speed limit is a prohibition. You are prohibited to go faster than the posted speed. But these signs are more precisely described as a rule: "You must (not) do this"
We also have a sign that is just a red circle on a white background, which basically means "you are not allowed to drive on this road at all" (it usually comes with an additional sign for exemptions).
António Manuel Dias@peterbrown @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert
I don't know about the rest of Europe but here in Portugal prohibition signals don't have a diagonal slash in the middle -- that is, the information on the original post is correct (for *traffic* signals; signals on other public spaces don't have to conform to this standard). In fact, a black and white dimmed version of the prohibition or obligation signals with a diagonal slash means the end of that prohibition or obligation.
@peterbrown @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert
There are some exceptions like no parking/stopping or no turning left/right.
Erwan 🚄@peterbrown @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert
See this for France : https://codedelaroute.io/blog/content/images/2022/01/Panneaux-interdiction.jpeg
You have limits with interdictions. And the ones with slashes are the end of limits
@R1Rail @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert so here’s the French sign for no left turn https://c8.alamy.com/comp/PFREWG/france-paris-no-left-turn-sign-PFREWG.jpg
Marcos Dione@R1Rail @peterbrown @DamianVonBeubars @ike @iris @danielgibert as per your own graphic, end of limits are grey. Red with slash is NO, red only is limit; so this is: you can eat only one banana. Also, the square blue one is suggestion, so 'you might want to eat a banana'.
Bjørnar (he/him)@ike @iris @danielgibert height limit, weight limit, width limit, speed limit. No left turn, no right turn etc will often have a line through as well.
@btuftin @ike @danielgibert this explains what looked to me like mandatory smoking, drinking, panhandling, and playing loud music signs on the train.
@iris @btuftin @ike @danielgibert What about signs telling that you must be 18 years old? :-P https://tech.lgbt/@wyatt8740/112683185989047087 (ok, that one actually renders with a slash over it here, but still without "under")
Leeloo
Jernej Simončič �@btuftin @ike @iris @danielgibert Wikipedia has a list for basically every country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_European_road_signs#Table_of_traffic_signs_comparison (note, the page may take a while to load)
Dean@ike For example a truck, a car or a bicycle.
VZ 253 in Germany https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/wp-content/uploads/253.png
Jens Finkhäuser@deanerschnitzel @ike Also numbers, indicating the speed limit. Technically you're allowed to go that fast, but no faster.
(Technically technically you can go faster without punishment in order to accommodate measurement errors, but it's correct.)
fahrradfalko@ike @iris @danielgibert either no symbol in the middle, then no vehicle is allowed to drive through, or any pictogram. Car, horse, bike, pedestrian etc. or even a horn, then you’re not allowed to honk.