Trump's official denouncement of former CISA director Chris Krebs (in the form of a "Presidential Memorandum") is chilling in substance and utterly Stalinesque in tone. By threatening anyone who hires him, it aims to render Krebs effectively unemployable.

I said it then, and I will repeat it now: There is simply no evidence that the 2020 election was "hacked". Krebs's forthright clarity about this in November, 2020 was a brave and important act of public service.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addressing-risks-from-chris-krebs-and-government-censorship/

Addressing Risks from Chris Krebs and Government Censorship

 MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES The Federal Government has a constitutional duty and a moral responsibility to respect and

The White House

@mattblaze

100% on all of this.

In addition, knowing that anyone who attempts to speak a cybersecurity truth that disagrees with the narrative being presented by the administration could be personally and professionally destroyed means that the only people willing to work in this space will be those who are willing to accept the narrative over those truths

This creates a situation where no narratives coming from government cybersecurity representatives can be trusted

What a frackin’ mess…

@mattblaze
This reads as effectively a writ of attainder, just masquerading as a Proclamation. Krebs is a damn treasure.

@mattblaze So weird to call yourself utterly disgusting for writing the thing you are writing

"... unlawfully censored speech and weaponized their undeserved influence to silence perceived political opponents and advance their preferred, and often erroneous, narrative about significant matters of public debate. These disgraceful actions have taken the form of coercive threats against the private sector ... to suppress ... dissenting voices and distort public opinion"

@crazyeddie You may be confused. The link is to the presidential memo that I am commenting on. I did not write that. That is Trump's document.
@mattblaze I'm not and wasn't but I gather you are.
@crazyeddie @mattblaze I was confused by the ‘you’ too, sounded at first like you meant Matt but I think you meant the ‘you’ is referring to Trump?

@mattblaze
Over on bluesky Judge Luttig wrote:

"The President’s unprecedented Executive Order yesterday targeting Messrs. Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor for nothing but the exercise of their First Amendment rights is the President’s most constitutionally corrupt Executive Order to date."

https://bsky.app/profile/judgeluttig.bsky.social/post/3lmhwiybck22k

He goes on to say, "The President obviously thinks the Supreme Court will ultimately side with him. It is just as obvious that it will not."

That last part seems optimistic

@judgeluttig.bsky.social

The President’s unprecedented Executive Order yesterday targeting Messrs. Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor for nothing but the exercise of their First Amendment rights is the President’s most constitutionally corrupt Executive Order to date.

Bluesky Social
@mattblaze I thought the vote was skewed by billionaires throwing in a lot of money at the last minute, the fault of the Citizens United Supreme Court decision, but there is no evidence whatsoever of any problem with counting the votes. It is easy to tell: you randomly select a sample of ballots (say, 10,000) and see if they agree with what the machines recorded. If more than a trivial fraction are wrong, you will detect that with a high level of confidence.

@bzdev @mattblaze

We are talking about 2020 election…

@krystyna @mattblaze I didn't notice - the billionaire comment was about the 2024 election - but the procedure I outlined to check the integrity of the vote applies to both. You'd almost think that Trump "believes" there is election fraud if he doesn't get 100% of the vote. He whines no matter what.

@bzdev @mattblaze

> you randomly select a sample of ballots (say, 10,000) and see if they agree with what the machines recorded.

That seems true, but is mistaken.

The machines do not record votes randomly, they are highly selective. By geography.

By carefully selecting which machines I use in the comparison I could prove anything

So you need to have a random selection of machines, too

I have done a lot of work in NZ on polling booths. Not random at all

@worik @bzdev There is a mature body of work specifically on obtaining measurable and arbitrarily high confidence in (unreliable) computer-tallied election outcomes in a mathematically rigorous way. Google “Risk Limiting Audits” (see Stark’s work in particular). No need to re-invent this from scratch.

@mattblaze @bzdev

True

My point is it is not simple

@worik @mattblaze It is more complicated if you do *everything* by machine. It is simple if you use paper ballots to record the vote. Then you just have to make sure the tabulating machines are working reliably.

In California, we get paper ballots mailed to us. We can fill them out at home, mail them, leave them in a drop box, or go to a polling location. A ballot cannot be changed retroactively by some random guy with a computer and a network connection.

@mattblaze @worik I was giving a simple explanation of how you can validate a vote. The point was that the MAGA nonsense about rigged elections is just that - nonsense.

BTW, in California, we use paper ballots that are counted by machine. It is easy to manually check a small, random subset of those paper ballots and simply ask if what the machines recorded for each of the ballots in that subset matches the manual count.

@bzdev @mattblaze @worik

NM has paper ballots you feed into tabulators yourself

very secure

@worik @mattblaze If you make a random selection of ballots, you automatically get a random selection of machines, weighted by how many votes each records. The context was a presidential election (i.e.where one votes for a single candidate).
@mattblaze ooh did you get away to do some NZ photography? I know im way off topic but the landscape is so varied and breathtaking and id love to see your pics of it.
@quinn @mattblaze That requests reminds me of being in Yosemite: a bunch of climbers went to the Sunday brunch at the Ahwahnee Hotel & afterwards we had a game of cricket billed as "Australia versus the world." The "world" was mostly Americans, with a few Kiwis (slang for people from New Zealand & as far as I know not derogatory) who knew how to play. The world lost - no surprise given that most of us were completely clueless. Our NZ friends couldn't compensate for our ineptness.

@mattblaze

We will soon move to the public self-criticism stage of this collective nightmare, a la China’s Cultural Revolution.

@xankarn It's not yet clear if we go the purges route or the re-education camps route. Fork in the road ahead.

@mattblaze @xankarn If there is profit to be made from both they’ll do both.

He “joked” about a purge situation awhile back, except only the cops could purge.

@maggiejk @mattblaze @xankarn Note that in a Purge, the rich have to play defense while those with nothing to worry about guarding play offense.
@mattblaze @xankarn
I would cite the Why Not Both.gif but I don't want to drag a child into this.

@mattblaze Paul Krugman - an economist not a cybersecurity professional - raised concerns about the vulnerabilty of US electronic voting machines in a piece in the NYT, which I have in print if you want to read it (we have everything in print).

But nope, there's no evidence so far that the election was stolen in this manner.

Edit: I probably should have read the year in Matt's post. 😆

@ApostateEnglishman Yes, I am well aware that there are vulnerabilities in much of US election infrastructure, some of which could be exploited to alter an election outcome. That's a serious problem, and we should prioritize addressing it more than we have. I've personally testified before congress multiple times about this. There's no running away from this fact.

But there is no evidence any election outcome has been altered this way so far. We've been fortunate.

@ApostateEnglishman @mattblaze unlike the most recent presidential election, where swing state votes seemed oddly uniform in their oddness (https://smartelections.us/home#62a6843e-b1d8-4584-9d68-1c627a013bb7)...
SMART Elections

SMART Elections - a non-partisan project transforming elections by improving election security, providing public oversight, and advocating for voting rights, accessibility, and equity.

SMART Elections
@AnnieG @ApostateEnglishman @mattblaze Are you implying here that in fact the 2024 elections are rigged, stolen?
@ronnylam @AnnieG @mattblaze Personally I trust Matt, because I always defer to superior expertise. If he says that electronic voting systems weren't exploited despite their vulnerabilities, then I will accept the facts. 🤷‍♂️
@ApostateEnglishman @AnnieG @mattblaze I think Matt is talking about the 2020 elections, this is about the 2024 elections.

@ronnylam @AnnieG @mattblaze Which is why there's an edit to my post in this thread saying I should have checked the date!

But if the 2024 elections were rigged, Matt has the connections to have smelled the rat. No rat was smelled in his networks, so (for the time being at least) I'm gonna say there was no rat. 🤷‍♂️

@ApostateEnglishman @AnnieG @mattblaze Ah check, let's trust Matt.

@ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman @AnnieG While there are still vulnerabilities in much of US infrastructure (which is why we need risk limiting audits routinely done after every election), there's no evidence that the 2024 election outcome (or any other major US election outcome) has been altered this way.

That's not completely satisfying, but it's what we've got.

@ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman @AnnieG In particular, be wary of elaborate charts and graphs purporting to show "suspicious irregularities" in voting patterns, etc. That's mostly wishful (or opportunistic) pandering, not evidence of fraud.
@ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman @mattblaze I don't have the background or data expertise to know, but observations from data people both at SMARTelections and Election Truth Alliance have been concerning. And the universal reassurance that keeps being repeated around elections, that "everything looks good" because no irregularities have been found, relies far too heavily on a tautology: there have been no irregularities found in exactly NO investigations, NO hand recounts (no, wait, some recounts, in other races, showing multiple different results). Hard to find what no one's looked for. Rockland County NY actually may get a recount, but it's not in a swing state, so probably moot whatever the outcome there. I'd be happy with a single swing state recount..
@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman Sigh. What you are saying is simply wrong. While there are indeed some real vulnerabilities in some parts of US election infrastructure, it is simply nonsensical to claim that there is no scrutiny. Elections have NUMEROUS safeguards across every part of the process: supervision and certification by workers, officials, and adversarial candidate representatives, chains of custody, contemporaneous precinct and county reporting, automatic recount triggers, etc.
@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman And the graphs you cite of supposed “anomalies” are nothing more than pretty pictures labeled with alarming conclusions that don’t actually follow from the data. There isn’t actually any analysis. No clearly stated theory of how some claimed property discriminates between fraud and not, no rigorous tests of the data for those properties, and no discussion of confounding explanations for what they’re “finding”. It’s just BS that people want to believe.
@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman worse, this is EXACTLY the kind of bullshit pseudoscientific “analysis” that the Trump supporters were peddling after the 2020 election to “prove” foul play then. It’s as meaningless for 2024 as it was for 2020.

@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman Also, for the record, I don’t believe you are an actual authentic person. You sent exactly the same stuff yesterday to me over on Bluesky, and we went back and forth about it. And now you’re starting from scratch with the same thing here.

I’m only responding so that others won’t be taken in.

@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman There's a difficult balance between ignoring bullshit to deny it attention and engaging with it to help people see it for what it is. I lean heavily toward the former. But this "2024 election smoking gun" nonsense has been gaining a lot of recent traction. The groups behind it seem to be fundraising off it, too.

@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman As an academic who studies election security for a living, I would absolutely LOVE to find some real smoking gun in this data. It would be HUGE. I’d get fancy awards. They’d give me a slightly better office. I’d earn grudging, if fleeting, admiration from my peers.

But there’s just nothing there.

@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman And for the record, neither I nor anyone in the serious election security community has ever claimed that US elections are perfect or technically impenetrable. Quite the opposite. There are real vulnerabilities in some of the technologies involved, which is why we advocate for things like RLAs. It’s an important problem.

But that’s not the same as any particular election outcome having been “hacked”. Fortunately, there’s no evidence that’s happened.

@AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman And before you suggest that I “do my own research”, I do. Though sometimes I rely on my grad students for help.
@oblomov @AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman Aren’t they grad students?
@mattblaze @AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman I'm probably a bit confused about the US education system, but if it's anything like here it would be something like undergraduate students after high school and until they get the bachelor degree (here it's typically 3 years), graduate students from bachelor to masters (here it's typically 2 years), and PhD students after they got their masters if they get into a PhD program.
@oblomov @AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman “Grad student” here generally means anything post-undergraduate.
@mattblaze @AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman oooh, I see, so grad students covers both masters and PhD students, got it.

@mattblaze @AnnieG @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman oh wait I just reread the exchange and I think I missed the joke (“no PhD” students vs no “PhD students”). Unless it wasn't a joke but a misunderstanding (I was asking if you didn't have PhD students helping in your research).

EDIT: disregard this, I'm tired and confused.

@mattblaze @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman Jesus fucking Christ, I'm either a bot or I'm a gullible, disrespectful idiot who's not important enough to have not own grass students. We're very touchy.
@mattblaze @ronnylam @ApostateEnglishman because I have the temerity to ask, as a skeptic, to please point me to anything showing what WAS checked, post-election, since all I've seen are assurances that "elections are very secure" and the continuing refrain that there was no evidence of anything wrong. I'm simply asking what evidence would typically be looked for after the election, and any results of those investigations. I've looked, and haven't found anything to reassure me. Not your job, I realize, but you've already spoiled one batch of baking

@AnnieG @mattblaze @ronnylam One of Matt's endearing qualities is that he can get a tad grouchy when his (considerable) expertise is questioned, but having followed him for years, I can assure you there's not a bad bone in his body and he won't have intended any offense.

Quite the contrary, he invests a lot of time and energy into generously sharing his hard-won knowledge even when not being paid a dime for it.

@AnnieG Yes, I’m a real asshole. And you’re spreading bullshit.
Wisconsin audit of Trump election win finds zero voting machine errors

A new audit of the November election won by President Donald Trump in swing-state Wisconsin has found that not a single vote was counted incorrectly, altered or missed by tabulating machines.

CBS Minnesota
@avhn yes, thanks, I had missed that because I had stopped looking by then. It's wonderful to see that one recount, long after the race was called (and certified) showed no difference from the original tabulation. But if that's the extent of what counts as proof on nationwide election security - and I'm not presuming that it is, but it seems to be what you're offering - it's not exactly reassuring.