Kyle CarpenterApr 5
Kee Hinckley
When old Soviet Union jokes are applicable to the US, you know something has gone terribly wrong.
Apr 5 at 7:10amWeb
Show threadBenjamin GeerApr 5
@nazgul @benjamin The joke is even older than that, there’s a very similar one written down by a 12th-century Persian poet https://archive.org/details/AnvarisDivanAPocketBookforAkbar
Anvari's Divan: A Pocket Book for Akbar : Schimmel, Annemarie, and Stuart Cary Welch : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Show threadBeeCyclingApr 5
@benjamingeer @nazgul @benjamin People have had to put up with the same crap since forever. 😫
Show threadToni AittoniemiApr 5
@beecycling @benjamingeer @nazgul @benjamin Yes. MAGA is indeed nothing but a reversion into the baseline of toil & suffering experienced by humans under tyranny since antiquity.
Show threadJeffApr 5
@benjamingeer @nazgul @benjamin The writing of that one is so much more eloquent.
Show threadm0xEEApr 5
@benjamingeer@piaille.fr @nazgul@infosec.exchange @benjamin@piaille.fr
I wasn't even sure where it originated from, but I can confirm "proving you are not a camel", implying the presumption of guilt, is indeed a very common expression in Russia and I suppose in other ex-Soviet countries too. I think it won't be wrong to refer to it that way in the context of justice, even if the joke itself is much older 😅
Show threadArbresApr 5
@nazgul I think all of us who grew up during the Cold War have whiplash.
Or something. 🥴
Show threadzetabetaApr 5

@nazgul
related point:

"there's no news in Pravda and no truth in Izvestia"

pravda means truth, and izvestia means news.

referring some unnamed media outlets in the usa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravda#Soviet_period

Pravda - Wikipedia

Show threadMarty FoutsApr 5
@zetabeta @nazgul Thanks. I’ve been trying to remember the pravda/izvestia joke for a while and kept forgetting izvestia=news
Show threadHenryk PlötzJun 4
@zetabeta @nazgul So, what you're saying is, there are no news on truth.social, and no truth on one america news.
Show threadZoidberg For PresidentApr 5
@nazgul The wrong was there all along. It's not the "communism" part that was wrong with the soviets, it's the state-centric system that allows for fascism to thrive, and capitalism is made for this...
Show threadחנן כהן • Hanan CohenApr 5
@nazgul
I know a different style of this joke.
Q: how to you find a tiger in Moscow?
A: you catch a cat until it confesses.
Show threadMikalaiApr 5
@hananc @nazgul
its not another form, itis another side ... another side of ... hm ... this particular (in)human interaction
Show threadOptimistic MoronApr 5
@nazgul
Lenin (and Stalin and Khrushchev) would be SO proud!
Show threadReiner JungApr 5

@nazgul reminded me of another joke from R. Reagan:

"Two men, an American and a Russian were arguing. One said, in my country I can go to the white house walk to the president's office and pound the desk and say "Mr president! I don't like how you're running things in this country!" The Russian said "I can do that too!"

"Really?"

"Yes! I can go to the Kremlin, walk into the general secretary's office and pound the desk and say, Mr. secretary, I don't like how Reagan is running his country!"

Show threadReiner JungApr 5
@nazgul This is also a first that I cite Ronald Reagan.
Show thread2xfoApr 5
@prefec2 @nazgul
I thought it was going to be "the American said 'i can do that too!'" and that would be the end
Show threadJasonApr 5
@prefec2 @nazgul I don't think anyone liked how reagan was running his country. They might have acted like they did. But their life struggles said otherwise
Show threaddhurvApr 5
@nazgul good joke anyways
Show threadenoch_exe_incApr 5
@nazgul And you’re just noticing this now? It’s been like this in the US since forever ago.
Show threadWm.sonApr 8

@enoch_exe_inc @nazgul

True.

Show threadAriatorusApr 5
@nazgul Trust me comrade, this one will be on the front page!
Show threadI am Jack's Lost 404Apr 5
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Show threadMajor Denis BloodnokApr 5

@nazgul Huh. I know that one as a joke that ends "after four hours, the Met [1] come out of the woods with a rabbit covered in bruises saying "all right, all right, I'm a squirrel!"."

[1] the UK's Metropolitan Police.

Show threadDreadApr 5
@nazgul They’ll never get it lol.
Show thread砂漠人  x 🏜️Apr 5
@nazgul shit... We have so many checkpoints across the Sonoran Desert now. It has been like trying to drive from Moscow to Almaty for years now.
Show threadGeruhnApr 5
@nazgul
USA: We don't want communism!
Trump: But we have communism at home!
USA: Wait what?
Show threadChris WelbonApr 5

@nazgul Citizen stops by the same Moscow newsstand every day, glancing at the newspapers, never buying. Eventually the news agent says, what are you looking for?”

The citizen replies, “Obituaries.”

News agent says, “Obituaries are at the back.”

Citizens replies, “Not the ones I’m looking for.”

Show threadJeff C. 🇺🇦Apr 5
@rotorglow @nazgul Really feeling this one, lately.
Show threadAlex GordienkoApr 5
@nazgul @ChrisFerguson I’ve heard a slightly different ending:
Q: But you’re foxes!
Fox: When a new law issued for foxes it’s too late…
Show threadRobin BartonApr 5
@nazgul It is the old blank cheque idea. Give the government the right to avoid due process and they can apply it where and when they wish.
Show threadSharony BaloneyApr 5
@nazgul
Ooh, I heard another one the other day:
Man goes to newsstand every day, asks to see the front page, then says “nevermind” and gives the paper back without buying it.
Newsman finally asks him what he’s looking for?
Man: An obituary
Newsman: Those are in the back of the paper
Man: Not the one I’m looking for
Show threadSimon ZerafaApr 5

@Sharonybaloney @nazgul

Very old joke in the Soviet Union, but applicable in other times and places 🙂

Show threadMx VerdaApr 5

@nazgul I've been wondering something and recently Foreign Man in a Foreign Land make a joke in his stream / video about it so now I wonder if there's a term for this idea and maybe some studies.

It's the idea that default people (whoever is catered to and normalised, wherever you live) have delayed development for risk aversion, to summarise FMiaFL's phrasing.

I'd put it more like "WTF is wrong with people that they don't treat anyone in out-groups like actual gd humans worth considering before shitting all over them?"

Show threadKee HinckleyApr 6
@MxVerda I understand that seeing your own privilege can be difficult, but the lack of empathy just baffles me. Empathy was a core part of my upbringing.
Show threadLisa ❌👑Apr 5
@nazgul @GottaLaff
Show threadRick ClarkApr 7
Of the hundreds who were “disappeared” most had no known criminal records, certainly far less proven criminal behavior than our 34 count convicted felon in the Oval Office. One man benefits from every privilege, as he behaves like a “shit hole” dictator to others. When will the law apply to him?
Show threadFrank NordJun 4
@nazgul At last, the USA minds the environment and starts recycling.
Show threaddanimoJun 4
@nazgul In 1989, at the border crossing to East Germany, I was 18, and the border guard launched into a five-minute tirade about how terrible everything in America was (I was from West Germany, so there was no reason to bring up the US, but hey). Anyway, the man described a dystopian world full of crime, rip-offs, and abuse—and voilà: just 35 years later, I find exactly that world in the news. Crazy. And of course, our provincial fascists in the european governments are following along. yay 🥴
Show threadTommixJun 4
Soon also this Soviet joke: Is this the store that doesn't have meat? No! It's on the other side of the street! We're the store that doesn't have fish!
Show threadHerr TurTurJun 4
@nazgul
I'm no historian, but the similarities between #USA and #RomanEmpire do strike me. YMMV.
Show threadJumping MouseJun 4
@nazgul Some of us have known since the First Trump Administration (FTA) than something had gone horribly wrong. A few had been aware since decades before that this disaster was inevitable, given the course of our sociopolitical identity. It's built into our Constitution… as is the means by which we might improve that document to "perfect the Union." Seems we are in the process of burning it down to rebuild… What are we going to make next?
Show threadRyek DarkenerJun 4

@nazgul

"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear."
Sadly you are not the person who decides the second part of the sentence.

Show threadBjörn 🇪🇺 StarkimarmJun 5
@nazgul
something something obituary front page