This is what many cities in the U.S. looked like before the EPA.
Why the heck would anyone celebrate deregulating it?
This is what many cities in the U.S. looked like before the EPA.
Why the heck would anyone celebrate deregulating it?
@crazyeddie @jstevenyork @luckytran are you?
Are you ok?
@luckytran I generally advise not to directly quote the fascists' payload.
This is just the people who bought the government taking their due, and it will harm americans and the economy.
Environmental harms always end up with a direct cost to taxpayers, which is the same as a direct cost to consumers.
Driving down into the Los Angeles area in the early eighties. Down into the red haze, photo chemical smog, acrid to breathe.
Remembering German cities of that time that stunk of diesel.
Remembering cars of the seventies that only partially burned their gas, and chugged out hydrocarbon volatiles.
It was gross.
It used to be that if you mounted a spark plug just inside the end of your tail pipes and wired it to a button on your dash, you could make flames spurt out of your hot rod's pipes at will. It was very impressive.
@luckytran As a kid I was published in the local paper writing about this bay in the area that made the place smell like total, oiled up, rotted, and then cooked and processed ass. Was a class assignment to write a letter to the editor and we went and sent it in and so on new years like 1980/81 or something there I was, saying please can we clean this shit up.
This was AFTER it had been greatly improved. Apparently for a while people had to wear masks to avoid the arsenic ash.
@luckytran It's a common failure in human thinking. I was a specialist teacher for students with hearing loss. I made visits to schools where specific kids needed support. Sometimes support was cut off because the kids were "doing fine". Somehow the "doing fine" was not attributed to the support teacher. Never read as "kid is getting the right amount of support", only as "support no longer needed."
It happens when the bean-counters take over the decision making.
@luckytran Eliminating air quality rules may also lead to more automobile accidents in the Central Valley (California) due to increased tule fog.
@luckytran
I'm celebrating.
Of course, I'm Canadian and your country threatened to annex mine, so...
To be fair that second one looks cool af. Who needs to breath air anyway? :S
Musk wants,"NO REGULATION", as Default Policy...
Wonder Why?!
$$$$$$$$$$
Ex-Yinzer here. Growing up in surrounded by steel mills in the '50s and '60s gave me chronic bronchitis as a kid. X-rays show it scarred my lungs. Now I'm 76 and suffer from COPD. I've never stopped coughing entirely.
A case can be made that the EPA was not the best way to get rid of the mills. Shipping them overseas just made it someone else's problem. What it did for the planet was like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Steel mills burn coke, derived from coal, one of the fossil fuels that's spit roasting our biosphere.
Maybe instead we should have just blown them up. I was there, I could have at least tried. I didn't. Too late now.
And worse, over a century ago Alexander Berkman showed us the futility of the Luigi option.
So what options *do *we have? I've been trying to think of one for most of my life and came up with nada. Does anyone else here have an idea? Let's hear it.
Money matter! Not health!