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Eugen RochkoWhat's to stop Musk, who's already tried meddling with German elections, from seizing Zelenskyy's, or any other European leader's X account, and posting something with dire geopolitical consequences? We're way past the point where it's wise for European leaders and institutions to rely on a presence on Xโand other US platforms are not a good long-term solution either. More should follow the example of the @EUCommission and provide their updates directly, without middlemen, through the fediverse.
The Wellerman Sam 
@Gargron @EUCommission I think that if that happened, people would sort it out quite quickly, but I am also very happy to be on Mastodon in any case.
TheFwGuy ๐ช๐บ๐ฎ๐น๐บ๐ธ๐@samsonite @Gargron @EUCommission People would what ?
Sort it out ? Quickly ???
Are we talking about the same people who still adore habanero hitler and not even question the most absurd things ??
I'm not so optimist like you.
"info" (ok very wild term) on X CAN create big problems since the average audience is totally idiot
Sort it out ? Quickly ???
Are we talking about the same people who still adore habanero hitler and not even question the most absurd things ??
I'm not so optimist like you.
"info" (ok very wild term) on X CAN create big problems since the average audience is totally idiot
@thefwguy @Gargron @EUCommission I don't think the public will help, they are too emotional. I would like to think that defence forces do not base their intelligence on X. Just my thoughts...
dewi@samsonite @Gargron @EUCommission I agree a direct violation like that would have consequences, but political bias of the algorithms has probably corrupted quite a few elections already
Juho Mรคntysalo@samsonite @Gargron @EUCommission
Sometimes "quickly" is too late.
Even five minute delay can easily collapse the stock market, for example.
Jeremy Burgess@iju @samsonite @Gargron @EUCommission 5 minutes is a long time if you've just hit the big red button! ๐ฅ
James Wells@samsonite
Yes, people would figure it out pretty quickly, but a very large number of them would believe the falsehood regardless.
Mike@Gargron @EUCommission Everyone needs to get the hell off Twitter. Even if you think Musk is on your side, he'll abandon you as soon as he thinks it's good for him. If you don't control your own social media presence, you're under someone's boot.
This Account Kills Fascists@violenteastcoastcity Unfortunately, I think you're right.
Elvis Van@IncredulousMike @Gargron @EUCommission by everyone do you mean literally 'everyone'? like every single one of us? leaving twitter?
Michael KohlmanIndeed. One of the Fediverse's strengths is that, like https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/ any country or coalition could set up an official and hardened server that assures the public of a trusted source of information dissemination.
The time for this is now.
@NoRomBasic @Gargron @EUCommission can you actually view the link you gave? i can't
Menno@elvisvan @NoRomBasic @Gargron click the little globe on the right, you will see posts by accounts on that server
Millionsit's the base url for the eu commission server which either has a broken trending page or no trending page
emmanuel@NoRomBasic @Gargron @EUCommission
The European Commision that are the EU politicians who loves to go to a war (read send our childeren to their dead). In name working for peace but looking after minerals under the dead bodys. A corrupt collection of people busy with corruption and taxes everything for the good of big coperations.
A verry trustworthty thing if you loves corruption and war. There are worst things but that are not saints and more a lie than Santa Claus.
Mark Ohe@NoRomBasic @Gargron @EUCommission
An idea many would surely welcome,
@AliceStollmeyer
I AM BANKSYThe new paradigm is quality over quantity.
The trustworthy, not corrupted communication is key.
AI, algorithms, aggressive agents make a quality communication impossible.
The future belongs to the brave ones.
Go for Fediverse.
DO IT NOW.
Kayleigh Beard
gudenau@Gargron @EUCommission There are also examples of him just stealing handles he wanted, so it's not unprecedented.
Dan k5s@Gargron @EUCommission Not just in Europe... US state and local governments, and agencies like fire, police and other emergency management, should all be sending communications through publicly owned and accessible channels.
Petr Menลกรญk 
@danafus @Gargron @EUCommission yeah yeah. We once had something similar, what was it's name? Oh, web page, that's it.
copsewood@Gargron @EUCommission "What's to stop Musk, who's already tried meddling with German elections, from seizing Zelenskyy's, or any other European leader's X account"
If Musk does that, it would only accelerate the currently rapid decline in usage and value of a server he paid $44 billion to gain control over.
Steam Deck GuildJust as it reduced the value when Trump was banned, who then stole Mastodon? ๐
@SteamDeckGuild @Gargron @EUCommission
Speculative value of a media platform based on the flawed premise it can monopolise communications can never be matched by sustainable value when the cost of preventing it becoming a spam and hate sewer manifests itself.
As to Trump's platform 'stealing' open source mastodon code, so called 'truth social' never federated anyway AFAIK and copying a codebase doesn't reduce its value for other purposes.
el Celio ๐ช๐บ ๐บ๐ฆ@elCelio @Gargron Musk seems to be following a 'chaos capitalism' model similar to Trump's where the gains of a previous venture give leverage in the higher stakes next one, all the while previous stepping stones are destroyed and abandoned along with their debts.
Tesla car sales have collapsed in Europe as no-one wants to buy or be seen in a swasticar.
@copsewood @Gargron
Agree.
Let others deal with the mess they created, why moving on the next target.
Agree.
Let others deal with the mess they created, why moving on the next target.
V.H. Belvadi@Gargron Timely reminder and good work @EUCommission
Alex Orloff@Gargron @EUCommission Politicians who are unaffiliated with Musk need to get off Twitter/X immediately. Why would you allow him to control your voice ?
william.maggoshaving all those social media CEOs at the inauguration proves this medium matters. the question is when everybody will start taking it seriously, including lots of people here. it's bigger than hanging out with only the people who agree with you. we have private groups for that. what we're doing here matters for civics and the only way to do that right is decentralized without corporate ads or algos. #SocialWeb
Ein KรถhlerPeople/Companies should at least post on multiple platforms.
If you are or know a decider on where to post for press statements, please consider posting on mastodon in addition to where you do now.
Not for your sake, but for ours. Early adopters might get some extra love though, so it might be worth for you as well :-P
๐ฆ Justus โ ๏ธ Tรณth ๐ Rรถmeth@Gargron @EUCommission @SheDrivesMobility weโre smart enough to not trust stuff written on X thaaat blindly by now, Iโd think.
KevinFlynn 
Communication with Twitter is unsafe for many reasons.
lord pthenq1"ยฟQuรฉ puede impedir que Musk, que ya ha intentado interferir en las elecciones alemanas, se apodere de la cuenta X de Zelensky o de cualquier otro lรญder europeo y publique algo con consecuencias geopolรญticas nefastas? Ya hemos superado el punto en el que es sensato que los lรญderes e instituciones europeos dependan de una presencia en X, y otras plataformas estadounidenses tampoco son una buena soluciรณn a largo plazo. Mรกs personas deberรญan seguir el ejemplo de @EUCommission y proporcionar sus actualizaciones directamente, sin intermediarios, a travรฉs del fediverso."
Be_Outside@Gargron @EUCommission
Here in Canada, maybe our PM will post something about this concern on X...๐
Here in Canada, maybe our PM will post something about this concern on X...๐
AdventureTense@Gargron @adventure_tense @EUCommission It's pretty clear now that X and Facebook have migrated into being tools of right wing propaganda. To be using them (as well as Threads), is to be willing to expose oneself to that toxicity and feel it won't harm one's self.
It will.
Supportive Tree-based lifeform@Gargron I think its safe to say US and EU interests no longer align and the EU would benefit controlling its own data and media because they've been pumping feeds with anti EU messaging for years by tweaking with algorithms
Tim Newsham@Gargron @EUCommission If you still have an X account, you're not part of the solution.
Grimpen Mar@Gargron @EUCommission Absolutely! Looking forward to when it's normal for governments and new organizations to have an official Mastodon instance that simply gets relayed to wherever needed.
I am Jack's Lost 404
๐ฉโ๐ฆฏThe Blind Fraggle@float13 @Gargron @EUCommission I don't think so, but once or twice they did inspire me to search for things on my own.
iveyline@Gargron I agree. I cannot believe so many top European key people and leaders still post on a Nazi's platform. It's like the EU giving Russia weapons to attack Ukraine and greater Europe. It's quite unbelievable.
Andreas K@Gargron
Nothing.
But to be honest, #Musk can also play stupid games with Ukraine's internet.
@EUCommission @briankrebs
ToranpettoI never understood why democratic institutions or officials publish statements via a platform which is privately owned and in a foreign country instead of publishing a news release on a server they control.
I recommend to write/talk to our official again and again and remind them. For instance with the question: I saw xy statement from you on X, is it fake or can you confirm ?
Thanks @EUCommission for regaining control
Nick Bohle ๐ช๐บThanks. But the handle? ec.social-network.europa.eu? WTF! I would like to have a European response to Meta and X. Think big. A @ europa.eu handle. Just imagine [email protected]
Regarding Kaja... there should be the handle [email protected]
Odiseo@Gargron What you say is the reasonable, right thing to do. We all wish that'd happen. But, for reasons that escape my comprehension, they won't do it. And if they were gonna do it, they would have done before now.
rexitpfkaTwitter is not my big fear from the goofy super-villain.
half of Ukraine *was* relying on the Musk monopoly #Starlink for a while, lets hope they found back-up systems.
Daniel@Gargron @EUCommission simply put, there needs to be a strong movement against this new American style fascism, which isn't so much different then Nazi style fascism. I just don't think we are quite there yet. Not enough people have been disinfeanchised by all of this, yet!
AnimalSpirits@Gargron @EUCommission Seems time for a coordinated withdrawal / boycott by all people / organisations / countries who value freedom.
Netscape NavigatorPerhaps Mastodon should not use a US Hosting Provider.
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Last time I checked it was en European provider, and that was two month ago.
So you should provide evidence to your claim.
@selea You're lazy, which makes you stupid. https://whoishostingthis.com
