Surely this new video won't make me seem like a crank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA
Algorithms are breaking how we think

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@TechConnectify no algorithm told me to watch this so am I even allowed to?

@chawkins @TechConnectify lemme just fire up an algorithm for your feed then: https://www.random.org/coins/?num=1&cur=40-antique.antonius-pius

Results say: heads, go for it

RANDOM.ORG - Coin Flipper

This form allows you to flip virtual coins based on true randomness, which for many purposes is better than the pseudo-random number algorithms typically used in computer programs.

@groxx @chawkins @TechConnectify always love it when my Antoninus Pius, Bronze Sestertius, Roman Empire Coin Algorithm recommends me something
@TechConnectify Our cup runneth over with technology connections!!!!
@TechConnectify r.i.p. to your mentions, and I can't wait to see the changes from early access!
@TechConnectify ooh, this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately, so I'm excited to watch this
@TechConnectify I'd argue that the same desires that lead to "algorithmic complacency" as you've called it, are those that made TV feel so much different when you could just turn on the tube, switch to some station, and watch whatever was on, very little choice or effort required. There's certainly a part of me that misses that. Same with tuning into a radio station and hearing new music. There is an aspect of discovery, like browsing a thrift store and finding what you did not expect.
@TechConnectify of course, allowing an algorithm with access to your previous viewing habits to make this choice for you means it is in no way free from bias, and is in fact loaded with it. It FEELS like the same thing, but is without all the actual benefits of being exposed to new concepts that were inherent in mass media before it was individually tailored.

@benklop @TechConnectify Honestly, i think TV was sort of the beginning of this. I mean, we called it the “idiot box” back in the day and used to denigrate people who just watched tv all day and got all their information from whatever was on it. Look to fox news, or sinclair broadcast group, for the best impact of this.

These algorithms kinda turned the internet into an optimized TV where the “channels” are customized for what will allow companies to extract the most possible revenue from you personally. And that’s not really in humanity’s best interests as a whole.

@benklop @TechConnectify

This, I feel, is a salient point and an often missed comparison - algorithmic content has replaced linear broadcast content, and in doing so, fractured culture + community + reduced human-to-human connection.

The 'old internet' was excellent, albeit very much a 'you get out what you put in' scenario; work and education was (and is, moreso now even) required to know which inputs would produce desirable outcomes; compare this to push-button-to-turn-on-TV/radio.

@benklop @TechConnectify There were fewer channels/stations, so shared media experiences were likely - water cooler chat is crushed by fragmented streaming services with limited likelihood of tuning into the same channels/stations as your peers.

Don't like the show, change the channel, go to the cinema/video store, pick a film, don't like an article, turn the page - this was the input required.

Now the onus falls on the end user to curate, when curation was the biggest benefit of old media.

@benklop @TechConnectify There are folks who love to curate + share, but that isn't everyone. Desiring a well-curated linear media experience is not a bad thing. But as The Internet has consumed all forms of media, they have all lost that human curation, to be replaced by cheaper scalability. And YouTube, Spotify, Netflix et al are not libraries or collections. No humanity or ownership.

I see the revival of vinyl + crate digging as a rejection of this and an embrace of the unknown - community.

@TechConnectify "especially right now" hit hard
@TechConnectify watching it right now, nitpicking me would note that there was an Internet before the WWW.

@simon @TechConnectify
I was tempted to also nitpick that "Mastodon" is but one interface to connect to the network, but I do recognize that that term tends to be a lot more public-friendly than "ActivityPub" or "Fediverse".

That's coming from someone who has more alts on instances that use Sharkey instead.

@TechConnectify The Second Eternal September came in 2007 with the launch of the iPhone. The internet changed from a tool you chose to use to an 'app' that was a part of your cool iPhone experience.

I feel your pain and it drives me crazy.

@TechConnectify i got this recommended to me so now I’m going to give you my totally misinformed opinion based on a drive-by impression of the point you’re trying to make and deliberately interpret things in the most unfavorable way possible while pretending my misinterpretation is the only one any reasonable person would come to. You’re welcome!
@marlies @TechConnectify I’m failing to recognize that your post was written ironically and so now I’m going to explain to you, very poorly and in a manner that makes it clear I’m silently judging you, the basic concepts of the exact topic you are demonstrably already well-versed in! Hope that helps!!!
@TechConnectify very tempted to GIF the "nuance? on the internet? THAT'S ILLEGAL" bit
@TechConnectify I think this is a large reason of why some people don't "like" federated SM as much.
@TechConnectify oof, you literally just got to that (I should watch /all of a video/ before replying 🤦‍♂️)

@TechConnectify
I'm fairly certain this video will not affect the level to which we think you are cranky 🤠

I'll watch it later with my wife, thank you

@TechConnectify
I watched it and i didn't think you're a crank. But maybe i am 🙃
@TechConnectify Could've put up with you a lot longer. Thank you for making this video!

@TechConnectify "--that this is no doubt going to be the most crochety, Old Man Yells At Cloud video I've ever released, and I won't hide from that."

I, like many others, am here exactly for this energy. Just because a thing is new doesn't mean it's automatically good!

@TechConnectify While watching this video, the art accompanying the song for the release of OpenBSD 4.6 came to my mind. Thought I'd share this for laughs and/or dismay. https://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#46
OpenBSD: Release Songs

the OpenBSD release song lyrics page

@TechConnectify No more a crank than the whole lot of us who are kinda fed up with everything man.

Thanks for the videos.

@TechConnectify I’m glad you have tackled this topic! My mom was visiting recently and I started to suspect that she was exercising essentially no control over what her phone showed her

@TechConnectify

I've actually been working with a group of coworkers and other locals to set up an organization to promote... er... behaviors that tend to oppose the algorithmification of our lives. I wonder if it means anything that we've apparently both started yelling at clouds at the same time.

Things like how to safely set up local services on your network, or run linux to keep old computers running, or finding human connections sans algorithm.

@TechConnectify Found out about your account in here based on this video. Immediately started following you 👍
@TechConnectify Holy shit... I'm so glad, I don't feel alone in this, even though I wasn't really able to put my finger on it.
There are more insights, I had in the last years, that relate to your topic. But for reasons, I have to elaborate later.
@TechConnectify So, usually I'm a mostly subscription-type user of YT, in a way, that I use subs for channels I really care about. Most those came to me through recommendations, made by people, or because they were trending at the right time.
What I noticed, though, is that I recently creeped a bit too much into the algorithmic stream of YouTube, bc certain videos are great for playing alongside playing video games. It can lead to interesting stuff, but mostly it leads to slop.
@TechConnectify Also, breaking away from Twitter was a very fulfilling, but also hard move, because I learned so much new stuff (like basics of running a web server and such. I'm still proud that I was able to set up my own instance). Because I was fighting thooth and nail on Twitter to keep my chronological feed, the technical adjustment to Mastodon was smooth. The social adjustment was messy, though (as you know already).
@TechConnectify That being said, there were so many instances, where I was internally screaming "Use your f*ing brains, goddammit!", but your thoughts add some more facets to problems I encounter...
@TechConnectify it's so ironic that despite usually opening tmy subscription feed first, this particular video I clicked on from youtube's home page :S
@TechConnectify let me blow your mind instead of just feeding it 😘😳

@TechConnectify thanks for the video today! finally got around to creating a mastodon account.

keep up the good work!

@Uniniformed hi! welcome and good luck. I wrote up some getting-started tips that people tell me they find useful, so maybe you will too? It's here:

https://mastodon.murkworks.net/@moira/113484112202118788

(There are more pinned to my profile but this is the big one really.)

Spo0000opybirb :flag_cascadia: (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image I'm definitely seeing new followers. Hi! Thanks for coming here. I know it's fiddly but I think it's worth it. Here's the most important tip I can give you: \🥳/ HASHTAGS \🥳/ Like old Twitter, this place lives on hashtags. Here's how to use them: 1) Put tags on EVERYTHING you don't want hidden. 1A) Seriously. Everything. Keep them appropriate! But. 2) FOLLOW hashtags. That's a thing you can do here. You can follow a hashtag like you can follow a person. Type in the search box, select it, then click follow. 3) Whenever you see someone interesting on that hashtag? Follow them. Follow people WITH ABANDON. Unfollow if it doesn't work out, that's okay here! That's it. Welcome! #twitter #x #BlueSky #TwitterMigration #mastotips

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@TechConnectify The % of views from the subscription tab was an eye-opener.

@TechConnectify Watched this video through #invidious because #YouTube managed to cripple #FreeTube ( a Free / #libre youtube app which does not have recommendation algorithm ) but the only live invidious instance was able to circumvent the issue and now it sort of works.

If Technology Connections will start a #PeerTube I would be so happy.

@blenderdumbass @TechConnectify
Did you skip past the parts of the video where he says that this is how he makes his living?
@dec23k @TechConnectify He can always choose to make the living in some other way.
@TechConnectify Thank you for uploading this! I feel so much more comfortable making the tools I use do what I want them to and not those things trying to get me to do what someone else wants.
@TechConnectify Me over here feeling morally superior on Mastodon and knowing I use the YouTube subscription feed
@TechConnectify I love this, thank you for speaking about it.

@TechConnectify My problem with YouTube's subscriptions page is that it appears to have no control over marking whether you are done with something or want to leave it in the list for later (if it's something you need to be in the mood for).

RSS readers can do this easily, and I use that to 'triage' my lists all the time. YouTube's way of displaying whether things have new content seems really arbitrary and unhelpful.

But that's probably in the bit you cut for time.

@InsertUser @TechConnectify I believe you can still get RSS from youtube channels!
@michael
I thought they killed those years ago.
@TechConnectify
@TechConnectify Excellent video! You’re one of the best writers on YouTube to be able to navigate such a complex topic in such a clear way. Thanks for all your work!
@TechConnectify I like the premise, and I think this is why some older people don't understand new software interfaces. We designed them to be like physical interfaces before and now the more "intuitive" interface designs from younger coders who grew up without physical interfaces.
@TechConnectify Is this video available in another platform? Thanks.

@TechConnectify

With a one minute timer (and no specialized knowledge), I managed to get as far as the model 15, knew I was in the right ballpark because it had the same footprint but a different faceplate, but I unpaused the video to check if you were going to provide the answer to the "quiz" before allotting any more time to that rabbit hole (which you did).

And after listening to that preface, I had a feeling that you were going to express an opinion that I agreed with (which is one of the reasons I'm on this platform).

> I don't talk about things I don't understand.

I cannot count how many people have gotten upset at me for saying I don't have an opinion on something.

If I don't possess enough knowledge about something to have an *informed* opinion on something, I don't have an opinion on it at all. So many people in this "New World" have difficulty understanding that.

> Surely this new video won't make me seem like a crank.

Not here, I don't think. If anything you might be preaching to the choir, but I certainly forgive you.

If nothing else, I'm going to be able to use the posted opinions on this thread as a vetting tool to further expand my follow list.

@TechConnectify I fully agree with all said in this video. But I would say many people here feel the same.

@TechConnectify

Oh, brother, your video gets into exactly my gripes with today's internet, apps and AI, saying more in half an hour than I could explain in 4 hours.

Day-by-day, the Internet is becoming less about surfing it or sailing it, but more like a lazy river where people simply lie back and are taken by the current, being told what to be interested in.

It's why I'm on #Mastodon to begin with. And thanks for the Canada shout-out against these BS annexation threats.

#Fediverse