https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA

@TechConnectify OK, thank you so much for coining the term "algorithmic complacency", I didn't have those words to articulate this and now I'm really glad I do.
One thing YouTube could do better, but I'm not holding my breath, is to surface the RSS feeds for channels again. They still exist but I think YouTube has an incentive in promoting their algorithm over self-curation via RSS.
@vkc @TechConnectify I even came to think we should just redirect YouTube RSS feeds from channels directly into our own Mastodon feeds using RSS bridges and just completely get rid of YouTube recommendations (and other material, eg. shorts) that way!
EDIT:
I was recommended https://feedsin.space which actually works for youtube rss feeds!
Now you can get YouTube here! --> @youtube-TechnologyConnections <--
@mikebabcock Your prejudice has led you to assume #Apple coined the term “#podcast” to co-opt it.
In fact, the term pre-dates their support. Ben Hammersley coined the term “podcasting” while covering audio #blogging for The Guardian in early February 2004: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/feb/12/broadcasting.digitalmedia
It was subsequently adopted by the #RSS audioblogging community, including @adam. Apple only added direct iTunes support in late June 2005.
@mikebabcock @mjgardner @TechConnectify
Historically incorrect:
In October 2000, the concept of attaching sound and video files in RSS feeds was proposed in a draft by Tristan Louis.[19] The idea was implemented by Dave Winer, a software developer and an author of the RSS format.[20]
That was me, not Tristan
@ianrbuck @vkc @TechConnectify YouTube doesn't hide the feeds at all. The head element in the html on any YouTube channel page contains a link to the rss feed. When you paste a YouTube channel url into an RSS reader, it's just using a standard mechanism to read it from <head>
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/@telesurenglish contains
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCmuTmpLY35O3csvhyA6vrkg">
@antha @vkc @TechConnectify The Link to the RSS feed is embedded in the channel page, so if you have an RSS reader (i use and can recommend miniflux) it should be able to find the feed if you give it the URL to the channel.
Manually, you need the channel id. The Link to the Technology connections feed for example is https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCy0tKL1T7wFoYcxCe0xjN6Q
Works pretty well. I don't even use a youtube account, since i don't know what for.
It's rather hidden, in the HTML of the channel there is a link tag with the rss feed, if you nab the href you can use that in your reader, for example tech connection's is
https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCy0tKL1T7wFoYcxCe0xjN6Q
As you ca see, they don't use the name but a horrible looking channel ID, because fuck users
Had the same question myself, so I Googled it:
@vkc @TechConnectify they definitely have incentive to prefer their interface.
But that incentive is why you should avoid it.
@mikebabcock @vkc @TechConnectify yes, but it also leads to watching endless hours of people getting hit in the balls and Nazi propaganda.
Google doesn't have your vest interests in mind when suggesting things to you, just on maximising time spent watching.
@chawkins @TechConnectify lemme just fire up an algorithm for your feed then: https://www.random.org/coins/?num=1&cur=40-antique.antonius-pius
Results say: heads, go for it
@wonkothesane I'll be real with you: this platform needs both better tools for those with large accounts and it needs a culture which isn't quite so trigger-happy to push popular accounts off the platform.
There are frictions here which are very hard to understand for the majority of its users.
@wonkothesane @TechConnectify honestly, I rather hope that Bluesky is constructed to make it functionally impossible. More options is always better. I don't have much faith in that yet, since there aren't yet any other "instances" of the ATproto, but theoretically it should be just as resistant to platform decay as the Fediverse.
Of course, the best case scenario would be for the ATproto and ActivityPub to eventually become natively cross-compatible. There's no real reason it couldn't be.
Just went to a bluesky "tweet". Couldn't see it because it requires you to have an account on BS.
How does anyone push accounts off a federated system?
@number6 Random hostile behavior on other people's posts is one way Fediverse drives people away. Trying to push one's own norms as inviolate rules onto others is another.
@TechConnectify @pol_9000 I think Pol was being snarky. In some ways because Mastodon is harder to use that makes it a better platform.
That said, Mastodon is very much a labor of love. You had said computing is a solved problem, yet here is a very real problem that needs to be addressed: Making a usable decentralized social media platform! There's no large money interests developing it, and that's one of the reasons why it is difficult to use.
Little confused when you say culture that isn't trigger happy to push big creators off the platform.
So from my perspective, I have shared your video in two places and star'd the post.
I don't have optics on any aggressive actions towards you, but I'm also not looking THAT hard. In what ways are people trying to push you off?
@BlueBee I think if you go to his posts he explains what the experience has been on Mastodon:
https://mas.to/@TechConnectify/112995453946857071
@SymTrkl@anarres.family I have argued many times, and will continue to do so, that one of the biggest problems Mastodon has is that other people cannot see a lot of the crap that I see, AND there aren't any effective ways for the crowd to reinforce good behavior and discourage bad behavior. Until people sit with that reality, this simply isn't a functional social media tool for me.
Ah, I didn't realize there was more that he had spoken about.
That is one thing (of many) I am frustrated by with social media. The sort of disjointed nature of it. He had made the arguments in the past, but it wasn't in THAT post.
I'm not sure what else can be done except begin regulating posts, but a central regulator is obviously bad. Too much power in too few hands.
I think we should probably have our own review structure of people kind of like steam does for games. But you get to say who's reviews you trust and you ignore everyone else's.
Where you and me and other people can say if we trust someone or not and then if you trust them their opinion of people affects the trust levels of others. And then allow people to be sortable by your personal trust levels for them.
I don't know if I'm explaining that well, but I don't want to spend too much time on it right now. Hopefully it gives the jist of the idea. If someone is a troll, I don't want to see them. But I don't trust a giant corporation to tell me who is and isn't a troll. YouTube surfaced Jordan Peterson to me and that man is an idiot.
So much of the pain people feel reading comments would be alleviated if we had a bit more proof required before allowing people to take up air time. I'm not saying turn people off, but label them differently, trolls shouldn't show up the same as someone who will engage with you with care.
I really only trust who I trust.
If you say sentiment analysis I'm now trusting the software and the writer of the software.
I would prefer people's opinions, and especially those who I trust.
Just allow me to say if I trust people or not and allow others to subscribe to that trust or not.
And allow me on the fly to disagree with someone else's trust. Someone shows up as gold trust with a flurry of bad takes. Let me override and say I don't need to hear them anymore.
This isn't context collapse lol.
And the reason why I'm talking about video games is because video games are less complex to review than people, and if you can't write a program that can review them, then you can't write a program that can review people.
On how this relates to his issue, he is saying that the problem is he gets 1 to 1 good to bad takes. A big part of this is that he has no method of sorting these takes. They are all viewed equally. So no matter if it's a well respected scientist or a troll, they all look the same.
Some method of determining trust is required, but if you give this to a single entity like with Blue sky it's too much power for an individual entity to have. But it still needs to be solved as the original poster has stated.
We have a giant pool of very capable reviewers who could help the larger creators sort through people and find who they should probably be listening to, but they lack the levers to provide that service.
@BlueBee Not sure if you are aware, but the “show me the proof…” response is typically viewed as a “reply guy” approach and is a form of sealioning
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
I just started following TC and have seen his posts about people giving him grief on Mastodon. It may be worth scrolling back through his feed a bit before asking him to do the work to prove his experience to you
Wow, look at the difference between your reply and the guys above you.