Lesley Carhart 
Women are being -erased- in America #resist https://www.reddit.com/r/optimistsunitenonazis/s/FvYzm4erhn
volkris@hacks4pancakes specifically what is being deleted?
@volkris bios, historical stories, biographies
victorvonvortexFor example, the link to this story at nasa.gov about Margaret Dominguez, an optical engineer at NASA.
nimi@nimi thanks.
It's curious that that would be removed, but when I go to https://www.nasa.gov/people-of-nasa/ there are plenty of women being represented front and center.
I know some institutions have been overreacting and issuing all sorts of weird directives to staff that later get rolled back when it turns out they weren't based on any substantial administrative policy. Perhaps something similar happened here.
@victorvonvortex @hacks4pancakes
Scott Bracken@victorvonvortex @volkris @hacks4pancakes
Thanx for that information. I just complained to NASA, on their website. I mentioned something about catering to Nazi's.
Sorry if this post goes to too many people, i just joined an hour ago.
John Carlsen 🇺🇸🇳🇱🇪🇺for alt text:
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Female scientists are having their information deleted from government websites. Women in STEM aren't having it.
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Female scientists are having their information deleted from government websites. Women in STEM aren't having it.
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Ok. I saw a post from someone at NASA whose bio was erased bc some fragile male egos are threatened by women in STEM. So I bought the domain womeninstem.us. Who'd like to help crowdsource a website where we can house all the stories of women in STEM
being censored? fuckthepatriarchy
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@johnlogic sorry. Croissant is having issues with alt text and I don’t know if or when they will get fixed.
Secure, in Style 👞🗝️@hacks4pancakes Hopefully it’ll all be housed outside of the country, where it’s safer.
@SecureInStyle I keep pleading with people outside the US to store things and not just count solely on the Internet Archive to do this for them. They're amazing, but a huge target right now.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like many non-Americans understand how bad it has gotten in one month and that this is really happening, right now. I will buy all the hard drives I can myself when I move.
The digital book burning and minimization of trans/black/gay/women's history is very well underway here. And because the US hosts much of the internet architecture, it has been very effective. They are doing everything from blowing away digital backups, to wiping file repos, to painting over walls and murals, to forcing changes in school curriculum. Now. It is happening now.
CharlieActual@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Amazon recently announced you will no longer be allowed to download and offline store your purchases. What's your bet that after they do that, they announce that certain titles/categories of books are being removed?
@CharlieActual @SecureInStyle censorship has always been the argument against centrally hosted / owned / managed ebooks
@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Yup, has been. No arguments here.
But specifically, this change being made now. I'm putting 50 bucks on "It's the opening move of a an imminent change to policy that will remove a lot of peoples libraries"
I could be wrong. I'd be happy to lose that money, but after what ... nearly 20 years, its timing is suspicious.
meriksson@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle The only viable use case for Microsoft Recall I’ve ever encountered. 🙂
Anansi (spider)@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle buy paper versions of the most important books. Books will not even be safe on your devices if these use gafams OSes (they could in a next move scan the hard drives and delete cultural artefacts that are against their own political beliefs and/or interests). Same for movies, buy them in DVD/blueray formats with 2-3 readers to archive and be able to show them. They could indeed try to erase the past.
#archives
#archives
catatonicprime@nomad2035 @CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle I'm not saying this is technically impossible, especially considering the Android safety core thing as the step one to detect, but this is probably a bit of a reach.
More likely to see them stop supporting generic storage access or something - downloading PDFs or epubs to begin with being discouraged or disabled in favor of some walled garden approach for some made up technical reason & a subscription model atop that. Like they'll say their pubs are digitally signed but then put in a flag to not allow importing unsigned pubs. Their garden keeps the keys & access for the masses is reduced, but without the extra bad taste of just deleting data from devices.
@catatonicprime @nomad2035 @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Possible, I just think back to when they removed 1984 (of all things) from peoples devices over some publishing dispute. So I know factually this is possible and has happened before. What with the current ongoing of scrubbing all references to ... all kind of things from government websites and the tech industries scramble to appease the administration, better safe than sorry and should definitely be on peoples radar.
@CharlieActual @catatonicprime @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
If you want to protect books, go for paper or free operating systems that are outside reach of AI/hard drive "scan and delete by design". Things like murena.com in France/EU, in germany: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en , in Belgium/Netherlands : http://ubuntushop.biz/index.php/en/ or install a free OS yourselves: https://www.privacytools.io/os, do offline backups. The deletion on what (books, papiers,...) on devices disk (mobile or laptop) is not far fetched under current conditions.
If you want to protect books, go for paper or free operating systems that are outside reach of AI/hard drive "scan and delete by design". Things like murena.com in France/EU, in germany: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en , in Belgium/Netherlands : http://ubuntushop.biz/index.php/en/ or install a free OS yourselves: https://www.privacytools.io/os, do offline backups. The deletion on what (books, papiers,...) on devices disk (mobile or laptop) is not far fetched under current conditions.
@CharlieActual @nomad2035 @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle oh yeah, I totally forgot about this. Looking it up (https://www.npr.org/2009/07/24/106989048/amazons-1984-deletion-from-kindle-examined) to refresh my memory. This is kind of the case I'm describing as this occurred in a walled garden, namely Amazon's kindle ecosystem. So you're right, we're already most of the way there.
Janne@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle This is the worst part of Digital Rights Management technology.
They did it before: Amazon removes copies of Orwell's 1984 from Kindles (users' devices) https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Snaprails@janvenetor @CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Big Brother wants you to create an account and give him your personal data before you can read this article.
@snaprails @CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle It's a fairly old article from 2009 demonstrating the terror of drm. Amazon wiped a certain book from user devices causing uproar. Here's an archived version:
Brandon 🇨🇦
Leo@CharlieActual Anna's got you covered. When the president's an evil clown, a pirate ye must become. And maybe leave the country.
Just saw a piece about the voter fraud in 2000 in Florida. This country's been messed up for quite some time now.
Resuna@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Where was this announced?
caranea@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Some removed and others added back in... Downloaded everything yesterday and getting a different reader next week.
Some removed and others added back in... Downloaded everything yesterday and getting a different reader next week.
Joanna Holman@CharlieActual @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle given they’ve never as far as I’ve seen advertised it as a backup feature (it’s always been described as a way to manually get files onto a kindle when you don’t have wifi) I’m thinking they’re probably just too lazy to maintain the feature but it certainly does worsen the impact of any future removals from the catalog
[HANDMAIDEN] xan@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Doing my humble best to capture and archive the essential weather and climate data I know well, and make that process easy and repeatable for others. 🫡
https://registry.opendata.aws/noaa-nexrad/
If you are truly well-equipped with time, wherewithal, and space, and want to help make sense of this massive corpus, start by snagging the NWS storm reports.: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/ftp.jsp
Claudine C 
@xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Yes! @SafeguardingResearch people are already saving data in the EU and Australia, and maybe other locations. This should be a global priority.
@claudinec @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle @SafeguardingResearch While a lot of the data I've targeted is arguably US-specific, there is a big, neatly-organized corpus of global upper atmosphere soundings for the National Weather Service's entire period of record, available from the fine folks at the NCEI.
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/weather-balloon/integrated-global-radiosonde-archive
Rob Williamson@claudinec @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle @SafeguardingResearch
It needs organisation. I'd like to help. I could get a big external drive tomorrow and start seeding torrents from Germany if I had any idea what data I should be seeding.
@claudinec @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle @SafeguardingResearch
Presumably any attempt at public mobilisation is vulnerable to far right trolling. I made a possibly naive suggestion to minimise such trolling by keeping the set of people moderating datasets constrained to those who care about them the most.
https://dju.social/@eswag/114013198480183186
I'm sure there is stuff I haven't thought of, and maybe something like this is already happening, but my searching didn't turn it up.
Rob Williamson (@[email protected])
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Maybe the approach should be that academics in safe jurisdictions register as volunteers to vet/moderate datasets in their areas of expertise. Academics under threat in the US anonymously share data access methods. The safe academics then share the access methods they think are valid for torrenters everywhere to volunteer storage & bandwidth for. By "academic" I mean domain expert in the field concerning the threatened data. Am I stating the obvious?
Safeguarding Research/Culture@eswag @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle yeah, we're working on it, like @claudinec said: chairs are being moved, but moderation is in place:
https://safeguarding-research.discourse.group/about
https://safeguarding-research.discourse.group/about
@eswag @claudinec @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Our Infrastructure to share things to be seeded etc. is nearly finished.
Right now you could seed from https://academictorrents.com/browse.php
Right now you could seed from https://academictorrents.com/browse.php
Jolyon Ansuz@claudinec @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle @SafeguardingResearch I would also encourage people to utilise on premise storage and remember these very broad statements. 1. Cloud storage and services occur on some else’s computer. 2. If you can’t reach out and touch it, you don’t own it. 3. When you unplug your Internet connection, no one should be able to access your data.
@jolyonansuz @xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle @SafeguardingResearch Definitely! My copies go to the mini PCs on my desk first, only then are they copied to other people's computers.
@xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Your link looks to be behind an allowlist, which I can understand.
Is there anywhere where data holders can register at-risk datasets openly & volunteers can download and seed torrents or similar?
I was about to say, "something like academictorrents", but I see it's down RN.
https://academictorrents.com/docs/about.html
Presumably the restriction is due to the problem of validating requests for data extraction?
@xan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle
Maybe the approach should be that academics in safe jurisdictions register as volunteers to vet/moderate datasets in their areas of expertise. Academics under threat in the US anonymously share data access methods.
The safe academics then share the access methods they think are valid for torrenters everywhere to volunteer storage & bandwidth for.
By "academic" I mean domain expert in the field concerning the threatened data.
Am I stating the obvious?
@eswag @xan yeah we're calibrating the forum trust levels for the reasons that you have already foreseen. We've been piggybacking off Academic Torrents and the Internet Archive as well as our own efforts, and also in conversation with the Data Rescue people. Everyone's trying to get things organised together while also racing to save data before it disappears. Every little bit helps!
LMK when you have something a flaky dev can contribute to in their spare time. Even if it's just terabytes and bandwidth.
@eswag @xan I think for now at least, follow @SafeguardingResearch and #SafeguardingResearch, maybe sign up on the forum even though the chairs are still being moved, hopefully the task lists will be more organised in the next few days.
Kathy Reid@claudinec @eswag @xan hey Claudine, Kathy here, hope you're well. Would it help if I activated the Australian open source community?
@KathyReid @eswag @xan Hi Kathy! 👋🏼 Every little bit helps. @lavaeolus @SafeguardingResearch I'm not sure if we currently have much representation outside the US and Europe? Getting more copies of data backed up down here would be great, especially for anyone with better internet than residential NBN. And maybe @wragge or other Australian #DigitalHumanities people would be interested/can spread the word.
Henrik Schönemann@claudinec Hi Kathy & Tom 👋(#DigitalHumanities is everywhere all at once^^) @KathyReid @eswag @xan @SafeguardingResearch @wragge
This is an international effort, I would love to have even more people involved!
We should talk, do you use Signal?
Or alternatively Matrix?
@eswag Apologies! I hadn't realised this was the case.
All good!
Confusingly for readers of this thread, academictorrents seems to be back up from my POV.
@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Then from there, those storm reports can be fed into a tool I have written to archive NEXRAD Level II data for which storms are reported (avoiding archiving radar data indicating clear skies):
https://dev.xantronix.net/xan/nexrad-archive.git
I've been working forwards from 1991 on, so if others outside the US wished, work backwards from 2025 back. We've had a LOT of tumultuous weather in that period worth protecting and documenting.
Jack Linke 🦄@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle I don't know why I was shocked to hear that even the monument at Stonewall is being wiped of any references to trans.
The cruelty and dehumanization is devastating.
And it's like cancer.
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@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle One of our Marines the other day was joking about trans folks getting kicked out. Using pronouns like "it".
I don't think he even thought about what he was saying. He thought he was being funny. He...
- Doesn't think he knows any trans folks
- Didn't realize that we have at least one trans person in our unit affected by this
- Didn't realize he was making jokes in the presence of a gay guy
I shut that shit down right away.
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@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle Reminded him and the others nearby that we are talking about fellow humans and fellow Marines.
That somewhere around 1% of the military is transgender, so they almost certainly know someone who is trans and will be hurt by this policy.
That many of the jokes made at the expense of trans folks are similar/the same as the ones I experienced in my first decade in the Corps.
That we treat others with respect and dignity. Always.
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@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle But I'm not around for every conversation 😞
It just hurts so badly that these kinds of conversations are becoming 'okay' again. That it's becoming publicly acceptable, at least in certain crowds, to again treat people like they are inhuman and as if some lives are inconsequential - without making any effort to understand.
Things feel so dark right now.
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@hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle (Also, ironic that the young man I mentioned is Hispanic, and it's a near certainty that people he knows and cares about will be impacted by certain other policies. Why do groups of humans pick other groups to harm instead of banding together to protect us all? We're all so damn stupid!)
Sorry for spewing a load of despair that had little to do with your post.
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Baron Vonskinnback@jack @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle surely it is worse than that, trust is a huge element of military life, how confident could you feel fighting side by side with a person you know doesn't even respect you as a human, how can you trust that person to respect your life when it matters most, I wouldn't trust them to have my back when it counts the most...
Court Cantrell does not comply@jack @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle The defining characteristic of all of these racist bigot misogynist homophobe transphobes is: fear.
Something in their individual personal histories -- not the same thing for all, but *something* -- has caused them to be, at their very core, utterly terrified of the Other. It's really a terror of the otherness within themselves, that part of all of us that we disavow, the place where we're innately alienated from ourselves. Most of us try to deal with it...
@jack @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle ...in healthy ways, and we succeed and fail, succeed and fail, and such is life.
But *these* people...these hate-filled, violent people canNOT tolerate even the mere hint that they themselves are not whole and complete. The only way they can sublimate the fear is to disavow that innate self-alienation. They only way they can deal with it is to look for a scapegoat, someone(s) *outside of themselves* they can blame for why they're scared...
@jack @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle ...and why they cannot know themselves.
Every fascism is born of a failed revolution, and every attempt to create "utopia" is really an outward symbol for these people's terror and disavowal: they create dystopia instead.
Wanting to create The Good Place where they (think they) can be whole and complete, they inevitably create The Bad Place instead.
@courtcan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle This seems to be true, but makes me sad. Can humans as a whole ever get over this hurdle? It seems like these cycles have existed for a long time. Maybe through all of humanity's history 😖
@courtcan @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle My personal experience is that exposure is the best medicine for overcoming fear of otherness.
Traveling to other places. Trying new things. Considering new/uncomfortable perspectives. Making an effort to talk with (or read content from) people who aren't cookiecutter examples of ourselves.
But you can't make someone care or to expand themselves or to allow themselves to be a bit vulnerable if they aren't willing to step a bit beyond their comfort 😢
Bruce Mirken@BruceMirken @hacks4pancakes @SecureInStyle I'm thankful I am able & confident enough to do this these days.
That was not always the case. For many years while I was closeted, it hurt that none of the leaders in my life would stand up for folks (like me at the time) unable or afraid to speak up for themselves.
I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone experience that frustration if I can do something about it. No policy (or lack of policy) makes it okay to punch down on or scapegoat others.