They can enshittify their own platforms and capture the news that they've bought and paid for but if they come for WMF its tarps off kids. Thems fightn wordz. Theyz bout to have an incident.
(I know, donate- I already do)
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Switzerland is often where these things end up, Norway would also be a good option.
@nmiller @jmrubillon @molly0xfff Why Switzerland? I am Swiss, but I can not see why Switzerland would be a particularly good choice.
IMHO, "we" (too often) just do what money asks for. ๐
"[Wikipedia] deserves 0$ until they rebalance." - a sentence that shows complete absence on understanding how wikipedia works.
"They" includes everyone, as wikipedia is the encyclopedia everyone can edit.
And the donations go to the WM foundation, that has no control about the content.
The content is made by volunteers that have nothing to do with the donations.
While the USA can force authors and admins with a residence in the US to anything, these authors and admins will be overruled by english language authors and admins in Canada, australia, britain, ireland and many other locations.
It seems that both groups (the billionaires and MAGApoliticians on the one side and the employees of the WMF on the other side) are completely unaware that it is unavoidable, that trumpmusk destroys Wikipedia, as Wikipedia cannot be forced into submission with any less severe action.
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Folgeumfrage (21. Januar 2025):
Wann verbietet #Trump (oder sein Nachfolger) #Wikipedia?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Folgeumfrage (24. Dezember 2024): Wann verbietet #Trump (oder sein Nachfolger) #Wikipedia? Hinweise: Unternehmen wie Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple kรถnnenbzerschlagen und in Nachfolgeunternehmen aufgeteilt werden. Wikipedia hat in der Vergangenheit groรe Anstrengungen unternommen, um staatlichen Einfluร auszuschlieรen (https-only-Strategie, eigener DNS-Resolver, Blockausnehmen fรผr Zugriff via VPN fรผr mitarbeitende aus autoritรคren Staaten), Sperren in Russland, der Tรผrkei und China hingenommen. Lobbyarbeitfรผr die Einfรผhrung der Panoramafreiheit in Belgien betrieben, sich am Prozess um die Panoramafreiheit in Schweden beteiligt. Wikipedia hat das REM-Urteil unterlaufen und den Versuch des franzรถsischen Geheimdienstes funkmasten geheimzuhalten. Wikipedia hat im Fall der MENA-Admins konsequent gehandelt. Wikipedia ist teil des #BรผndnisF5 [ ] Jan 2025 [ ] Feb 2025 [ ] Mar 2025 [ ] Apr 2025 [ ] May 2025 [ ] Jun 2025 [ ] Q3 2025 [ ] Q4 2025 [ ] 1. Halbjahr 2026 [ ] 2. Halbjahr 2026 oder spรคter [ ] Gar nicht [ ] Anders
If you install @kiwix on your phone or tablet or computer, you can download the whole of Wikipedia for offline use. (There's a version without media if you want to keep the file size down.)
That copy then becomes yours and no one can take it away or edit it.
@molly0xfff @catsalad Thankfully, the wikimedia foundation is funded for years to come. The edit wars I just saw flashing before my eyes are a whole other beast, though.
Coincidentally, I was just listening to a report about a sock puppet zoo revising history on German Wikipedia. Chilling stuff, but also a boost to respect towards serious Wikipedia editors. https://www.ardaudiothek.de/episode/sockenpuppenzoo-angriff-auf-wikipedia/prolog-ep-00/swr-kultur/14060171/ (in German)
Wikipedia โ die freie Enzyklopรคdie, die Wissen fรผr alle zugรคnglich macht โ hat die Welt verรคndert. Doch hinter der schlichten Fassade aus blauen Hyperlinks und einer Puzzlekugel verbirgt sich ein stรคndiger Kampf: um Information, Kontrolle und ja, auch um Wahrheit. Rechtsextreme Gruppen versuchen, die Plattform systematisch zu manipulieren. Was treibt diese Akteure an, und wie schรผtzt sich Wikipedia vor solchen Angriffen? Und wer oder was ist der "Rosa-Liebknecht-Sockenpuppenzoo"? Christoph Schattleitner und Daniel Laufer tauchen ein in die Geschichte einer Revolution des Wissens โ und die dunklen Herausforderungen, die damit einhergehen. Unser Podcast-Tipp: ARD Crime Time โ Der True Crime Podcast: https://www.ardaudiothek.de/sendung/ard-crime-time-der-true-crime-podcast/64622682/ Host: Christoph Schattleitner Recherche: Daniel Laufer und Christoph Schattleitner Skript: Miku Sophie Kรผhmel, Daniel Laufer, und Christoph Schattleitner Executive Producer TRZ Media: Robin Droemer Executive Producer SWR Kultur: Christian Lerch Senior Producer TRZ: Jasmin Bauomy Dramaturgische Beratung: Miku Sophie Kรผhmel Recherche Unterstรผtzung: Nicolaus Crayen Originalmusik: Wouter Rentema Sprecher*innen: Wolfgang Boos, Robin Droemer, Julia Glasewald, Jan Jaroszek und Sonka Vogt Distribution und Beratung SWR Kultur: Chris Eckardt Technische Produktion und Sounddesign: Wouter Rentema Fact Checking: Pia Stendera und Michael Kees Cover: RAM Studio Besonderer Dank an: Konstantin Bez, Teresa Emmert, Aimรฉe Fox, Hanna Herbst, Isabella Manych, Eyline Mutlu, Lena von Holt
This is why their complaints are so hollow, the licence on Wikipedia permits people to "fork" it so if they really wanted to make a better version there's nothing to stop them at all.
Musk has enough money, why isn't he doing it? Could it be because he doesn't actually give a damn either way, or is it because he's afraid no one would want his version?
@molly0xfff Europe or somebody needs to offer a home to these institutions, they are not safe in the US.
@molly0xfff whatever happened to "businesses have a right".
oh right, they don't actually care at all.
I think they don't even suggest a "balanced" new 'pedia because they don't want Wikipedia to exist at all.
That's pure MAGA reasoning: 'It's fine if I agree with it, biased if I don't.' Trump used the same argument about election results.
The fact is that the scholars cited in the Wikipedia article are experts. They know far more about the subject than random commenters on social media.
Wow, Chamath is all in .. .
First he programed you so he could become a billionaire and get a seat at the table, now he's doing what ever he can so they don't kick his PoC body out of the country.
.. nice try ..
Yup. The cheek of stealing other people's work and then complaining that their work isn't good enough!
@mbeddedDev ok I'll bite. How is Wikipedia "mostly politics". Come on bring the stats and sources. I'll wait.
You notice how whenever you call this out all you hear is crickets ๐
You're really revealing your agenda here my dude. How is some unknown dude being named conspiracist is "wikipedia is mostly politics"?
Maybe it's time to take a break and look through the window, travel a bit and see the real world?
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