The average age of homebuyers in the US is now 56

The median age of first-time buyers is 38 (up from 34 last year)

The share of first-time buyers dropped from 32 to 24%

The median home price is now $435,000, which is up THIRTY NINE PERCENT since 2020

This is so astoundingly fucked

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/04/homebuyer-average-age-rises-to-56-amid-rising-homeownership-costs.html

The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56—homes are 'wildly unaffordable' for young people, real estate expert says

With home prices up nearly 40% since 2020, buyers are now wealthier and older, making them more likely to outbid younger buyers with all-cash offers.

CNBC
@chartier among many other things in the U.S.
@chartier That 39% inflation since 2020 is nuts.
We like to think that California sets trends for the country, but it's not in a good way this time.
In my neck of the woods high prices have been driven by decades of NIMBYism and limited construction, but I didn't think those were such big factors nationally.

@14mission @chartier At least in my area builders build only 4 things:

Apartment complexes, expensive condos, old folks homes, and 4+ bedroom homes. If they’re stuck with one tiny lot you might get a 3 BR.

Want a starter house? They were all built in the 60s or before and are snapped up in minutes if they even appear on the market.

The ASP is so high not because only people with money can afford to buy. It’s because there’s nearly nothing less than $450k. I’m in an ‘affordable’ area.

@foobarsoft @14mission @chartier We barely managed to get a severe fixer-upper (1947 build) when the market tanked in 2008. But even then it was hard as a first time buy with a FHA loan, we lost a half dozen places because someone else could pay cash and then just sit on the property to keep the rents of other places up, the houses unlived in for more than a year after we'd bought and moved into ours.

@obscurestar I live very close to some very nice small 3 BR places built early 2000s. I don’t need/want 3BR, but I think after 2008 I might’ve been able to afford one, but it would have been tight. They were in the $250k range? But I was young with my first real job. Didn’t seem the time.

They’re now $550k or more. Snapped up very fast when they go up. Totally unaffordable despite advancing a lot in my career in 15 years.

Crazy.

@foobarsoft Our house is 800sqft. Enough space for two.

It's terrible out there. The rents are ridiculous now compared to what we were paying prior to buying. We could rent out our home, RV around the country, and still be putting a small amount in savings at the current rent rates. It's madness.

@14mission @chartier also construction focused on higher end
@qob @chartier I think so, yeah. It's a different sort of artificial scarcity--scarcity of smaller (aka, sensibly-sized) units. It's probably both what developers want (more $$$!) and zoning authorities too (make the riffraff live somewhere else).

@14mission @chartier I don't have the numbers - alas - but I really would like to see a proper analysis on this. Because seeing how many homes are bought by people who already have one (or more) properties, I have a strong feeling that a lot of this price gauge is driven by "investment" buyers, pushing young families out of the market and into rental.

One reason why it makes sense to make buying houses for investment a lot more expensive.

@JorisMeys @14mission @chartier I’m sure real estate investment companies and rich folks are part of the problem, and I have no problem making those investments less profitable. But I think the larger issue is the US just hasn’t been building anywhere close to the amount of houses we would need to house everyone. Look how little has been built since 2008 compared to every year before: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/HOUST
New Privately-Owned Housing Units Started: Total Units

View data of the total number of new privately owned homes that began construction in a given month, used as an indicator of economic strength.

@JorisMeys @14mission @chartier not to mention, building more housing is a great way to make these people buying housing as an investment lose out. It’s a win win for everyone except the rich and corporations who’ve invested in housing, which is why they fight it so hard, and why it’s so disappointing that a lot of leftists dismiss it as a viable solution to the housing crisis
@bwebster @JorisMeys @chartier The kind of leftists who are religious recyclers and drive electric cars, but fight tooth and nail against the possibility of poor people (or people just one rung down the ladder from them) moving into their town.

@14mission @bwebster @chartier all hail Mitch McConnell, the saviour of the poor :-) yes obviously, Harris' plan to build more houses is very bad. Trump's plan of removing unspecified regulations way more solid.

I always wondered how obvious grifters got elected, but every day I witness how insanely naive ppl are.

@bwebster @JorisMeys @14mission But if we’re talking sheer number of houses, I keep seeing stats like this—that we have *millions* of empty houses and around 550K homeless.

It sounds like we have enough, but the problem is that most of them are owned by the wrong people. Is that a decent reading of the situation?

https://www.self.inc/info/empty-homes/

Homelessness & Empty Homes: Trends Since 2010 | Self.

There are 45.9 empty properties per homeless person across the US. Have a look through historical changes and how each US state compares.

@chartier @JorisMeys @14mission Adam Conover has a great podcast episode about this topic if you want to do a deep dive: https://mastodon.social/@adamconover/113160466382837321

The short version is: an empty home is not necessarily a home that could help a homeless person. 1) it may not be where the homeless person is, and moving them there would take them away from a community they need to survive 2) there may not be jobs available for that person where that empty house is 3) (continued)

@chartier @JorisMeys @14mission 3) many empty homes are for sale. You need a small percentage of empty homes to make it possible for people to move without relying on someone dying to free up a home

The government could seize vacation homes and forcibly re-locate homeless people across the country to put them in these homes in areas with no jobs, but there are better ways to solve the housing crisis (like building more housing)

@bwebster @14mission @chartier you mean investment dropped after the housing market crashed. It's indeed a multi faceted story, and you should look at vacancy rates vs houses on the markets as well.

The US could benefit from more affordable housing, but such socialist ideas are frowned upon. Building for the poor is not as profitable as scaring them with Mexicans eating cats.

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-vacant-homes-are-there-in-the-us/

How many vacant homes are there in the US?

Over 15 million American homes — approximately 10% of the country’s housing inventory — were vacant in 2022.

USAFacts
@chartier
For Kiwis that sounds like a bargain. And it's not something to be proud of.
@briankrebs
@chartier Billionaires are buying real estate and driving up rent. Tax advantage, cash, and equity. They are destroying America for profit with help from the GOP/SCOTUS crime cabal.
@chartier You can get a home in Argentina for only $100.000 but base salary is only 500/mo
@chartier for the median to be so much less than the mean, this must reflect lots of very old people downsizing and pulling up the mean
@chartier @briankrebs This definitely won’t break things eventually.

@chartier

It's not just the US. As a percentage of disposable income, it's even worse in Canada and Australia (and by no means do I mean to say that things are good in the US).

Wall Street has purchased hundreds of thousands of single-family homes since the Great Recession. Here's what that means for rental prices

Corporations backed by private equity groups such as Blackstone and Pretium Partners bought tens of thousands of homes across the U.S. Sun Belt.

CNBC

@Npars01 @chartier FWIW the US has become arguably the best destination for money laundering due to a toxic combination of "pro-business" legislation and lax enforcement.

Casey Michel's excellent book "American Kleptocracy" takes a deep dive into the problem, and its startling geopolitical implications (remember Paul Manafort? case in point).

@chartier gotta get REITs out of the system, landlords with a dozen houses or more.
@chartier wages didn't rise by at least 40% since then so yeah, it is fucked up!

@chartier we’re not building enough homes. We’re too restrictive with allowing new homes to be built. This lack of housing supply is how private equities even manage to make a profit off the real estate market https://www.tiktok.com/@divasunglasses/video/7442753920696618286

When I say build more housing, I’m not even talking about 5 over 1s on every street corner through sudden intensification, but building missing middle housing through incremental development https://www.tiktok.com/@jonjon.mp4/video/7354822685605612842

TikTok - Make Your Day

@chartier

Welcome to neoliberal capitalism where few own all and most own nothing.
And yet the American voter has chosen, with the help of manipulation, a leader that will further help to dumb down America and serve a clan of billionaires only.

#uspol #useconomy #usnews

@chartier This is because the 56 and up crowd is buying all the houses to use as rental properties to fund their retirement, and renting them to the 56 and under crowd. Landlords are the worst people on Earth.
@chartier The housing industry in the US is committed to maximizing profits, not building homes that meet actual needs. So, we get expensive new oversized houses and new sprawling apartment complexes and nothing in between. Couple that with corporate ownership of swathes of older homes and you get a distorted housing market
@chartier no wonder you guys have mass shootings, how would you solve housing crisis otherwise?
@chartier I'm 46 and nobody really warned me that I was going to need to save at least half of all my income including birthday and Christmas money from grandparents to have any hope of retiring while I'm still alive.
@chartier Historical trends of such metrics would be awesome to see. There are also other metrics that’d have a second order effect on homebuying, like increased mobility. There are also things like needing a second household income just to keep up, is just as bad a facet of fulfilling the American Dream against the historical template.
@chartier Don't worry. The corporation will provide.
@chartier I know many parents who use their credit to buy houses for their kids who "rent" them for the mortgage. Wonder how pervasive that phenomenon is?
@chartier But the parasites who drink the sweat of renters are 'good hardworking people' even if they sit around doing nothing all day. It's those dirty minimum wage workers toiling away 70+ hrs a week to tithe rent to these bloated boomers who are the baddies. Look the other way! Greed is good! Crapitalism forever!
@chartier The only way it reverses course is with a maaaaassive economic meltdown, as big as the pandemic or bigger
@chartier The prices need to come down.
One thing they need to bring back the ranch home and bungalow vs just McMansions with six bedrooms and five bathrooms.