HHG²TG¼²°Nov 15, 2024
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Show threadHHG²TG¼²°

That was actually supposed to come across as funny and I hope I wasn't being too rude to anyone. But this legendary Emacs vs Vim topic like: "My editor is better than yours" "Emacs can't be good because it's not Vim" (or vice versa) you know all the old phrases that divide us as a group of human beings instead of connecting by saying "hey, it's good that there are different tools and what we've already created together with them!" But for my part, I'm happy to admit: I digitally grew up with Vim and when I try to work with Emacs I feel like a dyslexic who has a spelling test in front of him... maybe some Emacsers feel the same way with Vim? The main thing is that I have to leave my console as little as possible and I'm happy about every new suggestion and new software running on the command line." "May the command line be with you!"

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Nov 15, 2024 at 3:38pmWeb
Show threadBrentdevNov 15, 2024
@toot Don't ever apologize for being a nano user my friend.
Show threadHHG²TG¼²°Nov 15, 2024

@brentdev nano is super!
Every time I wrote crap into my .vimrc file, nano saved me! I love nano and rightly so nano is the default editor in (I think) most distros .. and I've already gone through a few, lol :D

.. and thank you for calling me 'friend'. By the way, this is my first conversation here :)

Show threadBrentdevNov 15, 2024
@toot ahh everyone on this little node is a friend....at least until proven otherwise. Welcome to the server, you chose one with a great admin team and most people are pretty open & chill. As far as emacs/vi... I've always been partial to vi but honestly couldn't care less what other people use. I'm a big fan of using whatever floats your boat and throws your hair back. The sad thing is there's always going to be folks who "need" you to know they think you're doing it wrong. Heck I'm sure we'll see at least one "Bluesky - The Mastodon Killer" post in the next week. I'll even call it ahead of time and say it'll probably be authored by someone who considers themselves an "innovator." It's just the way she goes.
Show threadHHG²TG¼²°Nov 15, 2024
@brentdev well strange time for the berryclub ... strange times
Show threadHHG²TG¼²°Nov 15, 2024

@brentdev
.. and on the other hand, you will certainly remember the time well (was that before Corona?) when, due to great egoism and the resulting loss of trust, freenode-irc became a no-go and thus destroyed for all people volunteering in free and open software #liberachat was created out of nowhere, which in turn resulted in a mass switch of all these good spirits to liberachat. This was unprecedented evidence of who the f(l)oss-fsf communities belong to mentally. Do you know a better example of positive conspiratorial and, above all, such great collective unity and clarity? Not me. This happened in no time without much talking. The good spirit called and everyone came. Well a few went to #OFTC, but even #Kali-Linux has a connection bot to liberachat because many of their fans were too quick to join libera. I have never experienced a major brain drain or should I say mind drain. The purest migration of good folks.
I don't mean to say that with what's left of #freenode there are only heartless zombies running around. My friends from PuppyLinux are still there (and also on lberachat) and are holding the fort because many Windows users are interested in #puppylinux to get started and are checking out freenode first.
You can see that so far I've only been on irc channels. Facebook x etc were never an option for me because even in their early days I foresaw that this could not have a good development for their users and for our society.

You know, I believe that the spirit here for many people is the same good spirit and I have already seen a few profiles that reinforce my belief. I think I will feel comfortable here.
Thank you for your welcome :D

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Show threadRastalNov 15, 2024
@toot Like them both but I never compare them. Vim is a replacement for your text editor. Emacs is a replacement for your terminal.
Show threadHHG²TG¼²°Nov 15, 2024

@Rastal Yes, many people see it that way with emacs as a replacement for the terminal, for example https://blog.einval.eu/ which is the blog of Vifon, one of the developers and maintainers of the ranger file manager. For my part, I use a combination of several tools with configs that work together and vim is the good old “team player” for me.

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Show threadZeStig    Nov 15, 2024
@Rastal and because Vim runs inside a terminal primarily, does that make Emacs a Vim replacement?
#vimsucks