David August ❌👑
𝐿𝒶𝓃𝒶 "not yet begun to fight"@davidaugust Siri how do I boost something 12 times
Resistor McResistanceFace@mlbellar there is a real chance there will be no actual elections going forward.
only if we let it
@mlbellar yes. We must not surrender any ground without pushing back first. You are right.
Peter RelphDemocracy failed near 50 years ago when the supposed left, the Democrats, Labour, Labor: Carter, Callaghan, Hawke & Keating, sold the people out, removing any opposition to the anti-democratic forces & allying with them to prevent any others from doing so.
Ciggy Bringer of SmokeIts entirely frustrating that this is such a insincere 'half in/half out' proposition used for politicking. 2020, some of us got the sense there was no bottom and got hep to the something like J6 working and then what? Pramila Jayapal will be our contact on...fighting back...properly...we got gassed by cops under Muni Democrats over police lynchings!
I think Democrats at large at ground level really dont know the sincere trouble theyre in despite deploying it rhetorically and it seemingly failing to shore up anything at all
Every step towards losing the franchise of elections has been in this limbo of 'youre an overzealous idiot if you actually believe us, but dont believe us in a specific way that leads to a vote and just a vote and promoting voting' like, I have been alive enough decades and cast those ballots over those decades for democrats to know they have nothing resembling a game plan for ground levels when shit hits the fan, and you gotta bet on yourself and those around you to get through it...
And yet, the dry well is being drawn on again
@ciggysmokebringer @davidaugust
"I've been alive enough decades to figure out neither the “giant douche” or the “turd sandwich” gives a fuck" - My you actually survived Reagan campaign ribbon
I mean, part of all this is to provide a frame to the dislocation between a party's rhetoric, a party's partisan base in action, and how it doesnt have anything but hapless and helpless partisans completely unprepared for their own forecasts of doom. Like i voted for 18 years between 2002 and 2020, what happened to me as a loyal Democrat, ya know?
PeachMcDKeyword here is ACTUAL
The legal rigging has been perfected in Russia & Hungary. The voting 'integrity' bills have been modeled on those. It's there in #project2025
Once that 💩 is in place, only a concerted vote boycott with less than 40% of the population #Voting will let the world know it's not a legitimate government
"we are so different from Russia & Hungary that those are the only places Trump can find a mate " - the history of US Jurisprudence which has had hands up her pussy before
Ramesh #NotGoingBack⬆️ @PeachMcD @davidaugust @mlbellar
>> Once that 💩 is in place, only a concerted vote boycott with < 40% #Voting will [show] it's not legitimate
This whole #SuuKyi story, from #electionDenial, to #imprisonment of political opponents, to #electionBoycott, and further loss of power as a result of the boycott is about to play out in the #US, isn't it?
Parts of it have already happened with uncanny resemblance and impeccable timing -- nearly contemporaneously with #Jan6
@rameshgupta @PeachMcD @davidaugust
"you really should watch a civil war movie" - a country with more AR15s than there are people on the planet and a great many are not in the hands of Maga" - the population of Blues States, it's a magic number
@davidaugust @rameshgupta @PeachMcD
"Yummy a squad of tanks in the Rockies" - Donner Pass
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES@rameshgupta @PeachMcD @davidaugust @mlbellar
excellent read thank you
⬆️ @PeachMcD @davidaugust @mlbellar
The silver lining here is that the people are slowly clawing back power from the junta and coup plotters, but it has been a very very long slog
joeziehmer@davidaugust @mlbellar We already know Trump will toss out Democratic voted candidates and his faithful will be in force. To remind us of where we stand. They'll gladly demonstrate it in strength through peace.
gavinisdie 
@davidaugust regroup for the REVOLUTION
CarbonIceDragon@davidaugust I feel like that's a bit simplistic. Like, yes, a significant part of the danger of Trump and his ilk is that these guys are autocratic and having them in office risks them ending democracy altogether. However, they have not cancelled those upcoming elections *yet*, and just accepting that they will and not preparing for any more elections both reduces the outrage if they do, and results in lack of preparation if in their incompetence they manage to fail to do so by that time.
@CarbonIceDragon you may want to assess the reality that modern autocracies often don’t cancel “elections,” like russia has “elections” but they do not decide who is in power.
He has stated, on more than one occasion, he wants and intends to be a dictator on day one. If that’s too simple for you, I honestly don’t know how to help.
@davidaugust Thats the same effectively as a cancelled election though. Its not technically cancelled, but it might as well be. He has stated that he *wants* to be a dictator on day one. That does not mean that he is guaranteed to *succeed* at this. Further, preparing for a future election does not prevent also taking whatever measures you feel are best to prepare should he succeed in circumventing elections at the same time, so Im not sure how it *hurts* to prepare for them.
@CarbonIceDragon you’re right.
Preparing for them might siphon off energy, resources and financing that could more immediately go into fighting to preserve the possibility of having them.
Put another way: campaigning to win is different from and takes focus away from campaigning to have.
Though yes, there are some efforts that support both pieces at once.
Dan Morgan 
@davidaugust @_L1vY_
I’m becoming a little exhausted by these kinds of posts. “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND…”
Ohhkaaayy Smart Guy, don’t bring me dire warnings. Bring me your solutions.
Not that I have many or *any* but I’m not about to insult folks saying they don’t get it—especially if I’m as white and male as that goober.
Women, minorities, and the queer community fucking get it pal.
Start by donating to legal funds. ACLU, NAACP, EFF, and the ADL. And be an ally. Loud. Vocal.
@DanMorgan @_L1vY_ hm…I wonder if drawing attention to a problem is part of solving that problem and being an ally.
I am going to mute you for the next week. I hope you will come to assess efforts to organize and increase awareness differently soon. Good luck to you.
nico198X@DanMorgan @davidaugust @_L1vY_ it's mostly that the response he's calling out is naive. It's still assuming this is democratic business as usual.
Why are they assuming there will be free and fair elections in the future? Fascists are about to control every branch of govt. They will tear down the institutions and fill what's left with yes men.
If needed they will remove the filibuster because it's no longer needed to control the opposition.
Once democratic avenues are no longer possible, you already know the only option left, and I'm not sure Americans have what it takes anymore.
If you want practical advice right now, the only way to prevent war is to bring America to its knees with a mass strike. Freedom loving Americans need to starve the beast and stop working. Bring it all to a halt.
rob los ricosbut they can hate on people who don't vote.
they will cherish that hate for as long as they live.
when there is only one candidate on the ballot, and voting is mandatory, they'll be in heaven.
kaffandoI wish people would understand this. There won't be another election. Trump won't be president for very long at all, it will be Vance.
This needs as much, if not more, organisation of a resistance than there was during WW2.
"It takes awhile for the US to get her big ass out of that chair, but when she does" - Defiance
Vance is a clown and the wealthy spent a lot more than they expected on this election. More than they are capable of making back. Exploit every crack nothing is to small and all is scalable
JonChevreau 🇨🇦@davidaugust Which is that the USA is becoming the FSA:
Strongthany 🧂🧊@davidaugust help.me understand, what does this mean? What does "regroup" here mean and why is this approach not worth it?
🇬🇱🇨🇦🇵🇦It means the "standard playbook" for dealing with a post-election loss isn't going to work this time.
@nceladean @strongthany yes, and further, if the chance for real elections at all is small, then efforts to get votes are moot unless and until there is a high likelihood of having real elections again.
Yup. I liken it to trying to play chess against an opponent who's just making up their rules as they go along.
@davidaugust I do perfectly we no longer have a voting democratic movement. We're now in the hands of autocratic malice filled sociopaths and sadists. Whose lone goal is that they'll break the spirit of any past group of activists. Through rape, intimidation, force, and brutally beating down political enemies wherein there was nobody who had seen anything. It's a nightmare for Americans and while the true party faithful are bracing to exterminate and beat down any resistance.
@davidaugust What people don't understand is that it's already been placed. You've already lost women's rights and counting on police officers who backed Trump. It wouldn't surprise me if there are cops in the background of your body my choice activism.
ManVsXerox: Resistful Dingus@davidaugust I disagree with this. I think people are saying this because we really have no other choice. We will resist as much as we can, but we should try to regroup in case they don't kill democracy.
If they do, it'll end in bloodshed anyway, so we might as well try to avoid bloodshed while we can.
Assuming that there won't be a 2026 midterm is surrendering in advance. Which is exactly, what they want us to do.
@manvsxerox no, the post is suggesting that planning for elections that are now in doubt is putting the cart before the horse.
Campaigning for votes is not as important right now as campaigning for their to be elections.
The post is alerting people so far unaware or in denial that elections are in peril. The post is suggesting people’s denial is functionally surrendering in advance, and let’s not do that.
@davidaugust with that we are in agreement, however, if we spend all the time just focusing on there being elections we will then proceed to lose the elections (see what just happened). It's a balancing act. And it's going to suck ass.
@davidaugust
That mlbellar is feeling like a trollish agent provocateur to me
That mlbellar is feeling like a trollish agent provocateur to me
@PeachMcD they seem just vocal to me.
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Eyes are peeled for that 💩