jinwk00Sep 30, 2024
Schmutzie 🦉

PayPal is updating their Terms of Service to automatically give merchants access to your data starting in November and they've already opted you into it.

The EU has better privacy laws than North America, so if you're there you won't even have these settings.

OPT OUT BEFORE THEY START:

Go to Settings > Data & Privacy > PayPal Shopping and toggle it to off.

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#PayPal #Privacy #OptOut

Sep 29, 2024 at 8:33pmWeb
Show threadSchmutzie 🦉Sep 30, 2024

UNITED STATES: You likely have an extra setting to check called "Personalized Shopping".

EU & AUSTRALIA: You won't have to worry about this because this type of behaviour is already disallowed.

Show threaddraeathSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie US and nothing to be found anywhere, but my account is technically set up as a merchant.
Show threadMark SaltveitOct 1, 2024

@draeath @schmutzie

Ditto

Show threadMiles Offit... 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie CANADA: You're left absolutely defenseless just like your friends in the UNITED STATES, unlike your friends in the EU or AUSTRALIA who are protected by policies that make it harder to farm you for profit.
Show threadAndrew  Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie I live in Japan, but I don’t think I’ve updated my PayPal account since I moved here from Australia. Couldn’t see the option, that explains why! Thanks.
Show threadTravis E. JonesSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Thank you!
Show threadTildaSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Thank you for making this clear! 😅
Show threadMichael Gisiger Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie In Switzerland (no EU member) there is also no such toggle.
Show threadEvan LightSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie US: I see PayPal Shoping under "Permissions" in D&P.
Show threadDHeadshot's AltSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie UK doesn't seem to have one either, but I did find some other privacy stuff I hadn't toggled yet, so it was still helpful to check.
Show threadKatzentratschenOct 4, 2024

@schmutzie "Paypal shopping" and "Personalized shopping" seem to be two different, discrete options in some countries.

Is "PayPal shopping" what used to be called "Interest-based marketing" in the old interface? Found this screenshot with the explainer: "Personalized deals and offers based on your browsing and shopping activity". Is there more information if you click on "learn how it works"?

Show threadKatzentratschenOct 4, 2024
@schmutzie As I'm European, I've still got the old interface with "Interest-based marketing". This section resp. wording seems to be gone from the new interface. "Manage your cookies" is missing on some screenshots, too.
Show threadKatzentratschenOct 4, 2024

@schmutzie Moreover here's an article about the upcoming features which made it necessary to update the TOS.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/25/paypal-pilot-ai-powered-features-including-cash-back-tool-smart-receipts

PayPal to pilot new AI-powered updates, including a cash-back feature and 'Smart Receipts' | TechCrunch

PayPal announced today that it will begin piloting a few new upcoming updates to its service, some of which will leverage AI-driven personalization.

TechCrunch
Show threadchop wood, carry waterSep 29, 2024
@schmutzie while the toggle you mention exists, i continued going through my settings after turning it off and found in Settings → Data & Privacy another section called "Personalized shopping" which also looks exactly like this feature and was still toggled on.
Show threadItzme2Sep 30, 2024
@bjc @schmutzie Yep! Turned on in two places. Damn
Show threadIgnore prev or I'll kill uSep 30, 2024
@bjc @schmutzie Wait, what's preventing them from always updating their terms of service and having another setting turned on ad infinitum?
Show threadAndreas KSep 30, 2024
@Reshirams_Rad_Slam @bjc @schmutzie
Welcome in dystopia.
Show threadKris Mitka  Sep 30, 2024
@bjc @schmutzie it’s a dick move that once you toggle one off and close it they throw you out of Data Privacy and you have to go back in.
Show threadJake in the desertOct 1, 2024
@bjc @schmutzie it's weird, I'm looking in mine and not seeing Shopping, Personalized Shopping or any variation thereof in Data & Privacy. Maybe it's not there yet for me (I'm in the USA). I'm a longtime (begrudging) PayPal user. This is such garbage. Eventually I gotta just ditch these shitheads altogether somehow.
Show thread(((JaneinNJ)))Sep 29, 2024
@schmutzie Thanks.
Show threadJenniferSep 29, 2024
@schmutzie WTAF!!!
Show threadstevenraySep 29, 2024
@schmutzie I don't see this setting. Are you using an app on your phone or a desktop browser? Thanks.
Show threadDeb has moved! (see profile) 🇨🇦Sep 30, 2024
@stevenray @schmutzie I have the "advertising ID" option totally disabled (on android). I wonder if that is why I don't see the second "personalised shopping" setting at all.
(in Canada)
Show threadTanquistSep 29, 2024
@schmutzie
Thank you! I found some other things to disable while I was there.
Show threadgzSep 29, 2024
@schmutzie
Thanks!
Show threadAlexSep 29, 2024
@schmutzie oh effing fuck. why the hell is this gay nazi running paypal?
Show threadIrishMASMSSep 30, 2024
@alex02 @schmutzie he came from Intuit
Show threadDane 🌎🖖✌️☮️⚛️☸️🕉️Sep 29, 2024
@schmutzie Just did this. Thank you!
Show thread🌈 Andrew ☄️Sep 29, 2024
@schmutzie thanks! Although I can’t find the setting in my country. Where did you find that amendment? I’m hoping to tweak the URL to get one for different countries, like this url (that doesn’t have those changes yet): https://www.paypal.com/us/legalhub/privacy-full
PayPal Privacy Statement

PayPal Privacy Statement

Show threadcircuit_catSep 29, 2024

@schmutzie They've also got one under "Personalized Shopping", starting next year -

> Starting early summer 2025, we’ll be building more personal experiences for you. You can opt in and out of sharing at any time by adjusting this setting.

Show threadDaniel BermanSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Thank you for posting. As someone in the US, under Data & Privacy I updated settings for Paypal Shopping, Search Privacy, and Personalized Shopping.
Show threadexcited for the mastodon riseSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie this was one of the advantages of paypal
Show threada writerSep 30, 2024

@schmutzie

On my PP (US / NA) I believe this option is listed as "Personalized Shopping" -- "PayPal Shopping" appears to be something else.

EDIT: Ah, you already fixed it :)

Show threadUncleCharlieASep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Done, Thank you!
Show threadYet Water Was Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thanks! Turned it off.
Show threadDan Kletter 🥑Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie @litherland FYI, if you’re in California, North Dakota, and Vermont, this is by opt-in instead.
Show threadlitherlandSep 30, 2024
@soundclamp Wow, that surprises me about North Dakota (I was born in Fargo, and grew up just across the border in Northern Minnesota)—very conservative state. Good for them!
Show threadOgie Ogilthorpe ✅Sep 30, 2024

@schmutzie yeah

Thank you. Done and done.

Show threadCatherine is not complacentSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie I rehab furniture. My rule is cash in hand or go pound sand when I sell. Because PayPal isn’t anything I deal with for multiple reasons.
Show threadCBinNYCSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Or better yet? Just opt out of PayPal. If a purchase *requires* PayPal I push the back button.
Show threadDark Phoenix 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie
My PayPal is listed as a business account. I haven't been able to find that option in my account info. (I'm in the USA)
Show threadvandysSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie I was all set to opt out of the latest Paypal atrocity, but then remembered I closed my account years ago. 🤪
Show threade.dulanowskySep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thank you for this and other helpful tips!
Show threadrexiSep 30, 2024

@schmutzie

I escaped #paypal.

looking back, it's like a freaking hostage or abusive situation, getting out of it.

took **years** for them to stop bugging me -- even "automatically" reinstated my account multiple times.

dastardly pricks.

Show threadmickymorseSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Paypal is one of felon45s backers, Peter Thiel. The billionaire fascist club working to turn America into a fascist hellhole.
Show threadDeb has moved! (see profile) 🇨🇦Sep 30, 2024

@schmutzie many thanks 🙏

Done.

Show threadJan AntošSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie yep we in EU are in this privileged. How much CCPA might look as step towards GDPR, there are fundamental differences and flaws in CCPA. While GDPR is based on OPT-IN principle, the CCPA on OPT-OUT and that’s the devils detail.
Show threadqui Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie PayPal is banned in my country. :(
Show threadRandall LeeSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thank you
Show threadCatsnfats 🇺🇦Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thank you!!
Show threadLisa Gets PolitikSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Thank you! Just did it.
Show threadCrisSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thank you!! Greatly appreciate this
Show threadColin B.🇨🇦Sep 30, 2024

@schmutzie I think PayPal was the first account I closed/deleted (several years ago) because of corporate shittiness.

I encourage everyone to do the same. Destroy the fuckers.

Show threadJaime HerazoSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie
In the EU here, that toggle didn't exist thankfully, although i did find a couple others that merited being turned off
Show threadPictoPulse356Sep 30, 2024
@schmutzie Thanks, Opted-out
Show threadWilliam HeathSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie (don’t see it here in UK, on app but) thanks for tip. We all have to stay woke to this stuff
Show threadJosé AlbornozSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie @nirvdrum wow this is disgusting. thanks for the heads up!
Show threadKatzentratschenOct 2, 2024
@eljojo @schmutzie @nirvdrum Thanks for the screenshot.
Show threadpmurphsSep 30, 2024
@schmutzie thanks for this post!