I grew up a few km away from the border to France. My classroom was 100 meters away from the Rhine. I was in 9th grade when they opened the borders. I was in 12th grade when they introduced the Euro. Visiting other countries in the EU suddenly felt truly magical. "Fuck you" to all politicians in this country who are currently destroying this magical idea for pure populism, to appease some fascists. It's all about staying in power - as if that helped - and I couldn't despise them more for it.
@bastianallgeier As someone in the UK who’s on the other side of that absolute ruination. Hold what you have tight.
@bastianallgeier You'd also think that, being professional politicians, they would be aware of the ample political science research that shows these kinds of moves only strengthen the far-right.
@brecht @bastianallgeier that's what's so wild, right? And they've seen it happen in other countries (AND in Germany) and yet, they have no better ideas so here we go again...

@bastianallgeier Similar feelings for me, even though I lived further from the border and was younger when change happened. Even though, I remember the sucking experience of crossing borders, the weird feeling of foreign money. The money part is still wonderful to me during travel and an unexpected nuisance when visiting non Euro countries.

These German ideas of introducing border controls feel like time is going backwards, apart from the fact that borders were built in the past decades were under the assumption that no controls are necessary. Those people trying to avoid controls will easily manage, families on their way to vacations and relatives will be hit hardest.

@bastianallgeier Very similar vibes here. I vividly remember the border controls when visiting my French godfather in Alsace when I was a kid – every time I pass that non-existent border it feels really good and very European. Sigh.

@bastianallgeier I drove from Dresden to Prague with spare time so didn't keep to a route, and remember the astonished joy when I went over a little bridge and realised I was in Poland.

Going along the road beside the river was a revelation. Sticks in the ground on each side, painted with the colours of the appropriate flag. The river is not wide - a serious long-jumper could cross it - and THAT is a border? What nonsense humans perpetrate.

@bastianallgeier Ich erinnere mich an DDR-Besuche und ewige Wartezeiten an den Grenzen zu Frankreich, Österreich und Italien. Niemandem tun oder taten diese Grenzen gut.
@bastianallgeier now imagine how we feel in Britain. Our happiness shattered by bigots and opportunists like farage and johnson.

@bastianallgeier For context, heavily controlled borders were a 20th century invention. Up to the success of the eugenicist movement in USA, it was fairly common for European people to just wander around, or move to new places, and no political authority particularly minded (with the exception of enslaved people, which was only ultimately abolished with the issuance of the Emancipation Manifesto of 1861by the last remaining absolute monarch of Europe, who also happened to rule the last European country where slavery was legal, Alexandr II of Russia). Borders used to be about preventing hostile military from corssing into a country's claimed territory.

Unfortunately, after WWI, the eugenicists' anti-immigration ideas led to a series of countries establishing civilian immigration controls, and while these were relatively mild in the beginning, they had become quite a serious issue for refugees by WWII. Much of the Displaced People's mess after WWII would have been a lot easier to handle if there hadn't been the immigration control bullshit in the way.

@bastianallgeier the next step after the borders are back up if probably "pre-authorization". It would be too simple if you'd just show up with a passport.

@bastianallgeier now imagine sort of the same, but being born in eastern block and lining up for hours on borders while going for a vacation ...

Yeah anger is the right emotion here ..

@bastianallgeier I'm so old I remember the years of intricately tedious negotiations ultimately facilitating the European Economic Community, only to be outdone by the teeth-pullingly elaborate diplomacies that finally led to the formation of the EU.

Europeans seem in generally to be happier, freer, & better off: it would be a crime against humanity to just throw all that away.

@bastianallgeier

Same, via Brexit. I no longer live in the UK and won't renew my UK passport because it's now useless

@AnnaAnthro

@bastianallgeier One of my first "dark" memories is the transit through the GDR starting at Helmstedt. Arriving at the big border control station, lit up like nothing I'd seen before, my parents becoming very tense, the waiting in one of the many queues, the GDR border guards who spoke in a strange, harsh tone and took away our passports (and I was so proud of my brand new children's passport!) and how I was so relieved to get it back...

I don't want anybody to feel that way again.

@bastianallgeier
Amen! As eastern German Schengen was always the manifestation of freedom af movement and the European idea. Those fuckers in the saxonian government already insult our intelligence and maturity for a year now with their stupid border checkpoints. It's an embarrassment for us all.
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@bastianallgeier Living in a border town to France as well, it was astonishing to learn that Austrians visiting us end of the 80‘s, could not Travel to our planned Restaurant in Colmar, because they would have needed a VISA for France. So happy that this ist not necessary anymore. We need to protect this against this step backwards.
@bastianallgeier @JonSparks There is a strong undercurrent of Brexit resentment bubbling away in Britain. Those responsible will be judged. 🤨
@benjamincox @bastianallgeier @JonSparks to be fair I ensure that everyone I find out has voted for, backed, supported or still supports Brexit gets nothing from me, either personally or professionally. My boss asked me why I agreed to do out of hours work for some customers for free but always ensure we charge others, I said "because some deserve my time and some deserve to pay." I will continue to punish these people from the shadows until the day I die...
@bastianallgeier Why is the SPD so utterly useless on everything, they seem adept at pleasing absolutely no one. I can expect this kind of craven rubbish from the FDP and the CDU but what is the point of the SPD anymore?

@bastianallgeier

I remember one incident in the early 80s. I was on vacation with my English boyfriend, and on the way back to Germany we had picked up a french tramper. Three different nationalities in a colourful Citroen 2CV! Too much for the Bavarian border staff. We were pulled out and every single passport was inspected. It took half an hour. I don't want that back!

@bastianallgeier As someone from the UK who's had this populist bullshit forced upon us, by small minded people, I concur.

We should be in a world with no borders - national identity and nationalism are outdated concepts - who cares where you were born, is that the only thing that defines these people?

True unification feels ever further away, sadly.

@bastianallgeier @oliof was just saying this to my wife last night as we drove through Switzerland, after leaving Germany visiting friends and being in France this morning.

Couldn't do that when we liked if we still lived in the UK.

@bastianallgeier @oliof also borders on border towns are usually just a line around someone's house.
@bastianallgeier the peole who love borders couldn't possibly be old enough to remember travelling from Sweden to Spain in a car before the Maastricht treaty.
@loke @bastianallgeier I don't know, it's more convenient for sure, but when the borders came down we were also partly sad that you couldn't collect stamps in your passport anymore. 🙂
@clacke @bastianallgeier you can, actually. You can get a collectors stamp. Check with a police station near the border. That's how we got out Andorra stamps.
@bastianallgeier Being both an EU and US citizen, having lived in the EU as borders became easier and easier to cross, having lived in the US where there are no practical borders between states, and being back in Europe, I am shocked and hugely disappointed that we (Europe) are creating more ways to divide ourselves instead of working toward building a stronger union.
@bastianallgeier I grew up in Belgium, so the border was never that far, and foreign currencies were never that foreign. Inside the Benelux, BE-NL border control was virtually non-existent, BE-LU border control was uni-directional (LU: "Please buy more cheap stuff here, all currencies accepted"). The BE-FR border was still OK, but the BE-DE border was notorious for the long queues.