So far today, Day 14 of #CovidJail, I have watched two #movies.

That is to say, I watched one all the way through.
The second, I gave up on one hour in.

The one I finished was #BlackBox with Mamoudou Athie and Phylicia Rashad. It was fine. I guessed the twist the first time Athie's character experienced a jarring memory. The rest of the storyline was wholly predictable. Athie's acting and Amanda Christine's were the only part I can say I enjoyed. Rashad as a mad scientist was fine.

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The second movie was #Foe with Saiorse Ronan. Frankly, I kept waiting for something to happen. At the 59 minute mark, when nothing had happened to get me emotionally invested with the characters, I paused and went looking for a synopsis.

The amount of story they had, they could've wrapped that up in 30 minutes. No reason to stretch it nearly 2 hours. *yawn*

I haven't seen #StarshipTroopers since before it earned cult status, so I'ma try that next. 🤞

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Okay, #StarshipTroopers, your first 3 minutes are already more hilarious than I remembered.

When I saw this in theaters 27 (!?!!!?!?! wtf) years ago, I was still very much a Heinlein fan and expecting it to be just like the novel. Thus, I despised the movie.

That was definitely about fifty Courtneys ago. 😆

RICO! RICO!

Rico, pay attention, you dork. Jester's talking to you.

#JestersDead

"I doubt anyone here would recognize civic virtue if it reached up and bit you in the ass."

That seems like a useful quote for diverse situations. 🤣

#StarshipTroopers

Doogie Howser!?!!???!?

#StarshipTroopers

BLANCHE DEVEREAUX❓❗⁉️⁉️❓❗❓⁉️⁉️⁉️❓❗

#StarshipTroopers
#GoldenGirls

"Cyrano, get off my leg!"

I had no idea we'd get into classic literature territory here.

#StarshipTroopers

Whoooooo, these military ads are SO today's politicians posing for Christmas cards with their families and every member armed with AR-15s.

#StarshipTroopers

"Mormon extremists"

😳

#StarshipTroopers

"Do you think I'm funny? Do I make you laugh? Do you think I'm a comedian?"

CLANCY EFFIN BROWN IN DA HOUSE! 😄

#StarshipTroopers

"DEW YEW *GET* ME?!" 🤣

#StarshipTroopers

Diz already annoys me, but her kicking Rico and Ace into the mud is satisfying. 😉😁

#StarshipTroopers

Watching Carmen and her crew flying in their little shuttle, I'm all WHERE ARE THEIR HELMETS?!?

Too much #BattlestarGalactica lately 😆

#StarshipTroopers

Oh good! Laser tag! 😀

#StarshipTroopers

Is it still a Dear John(ny) letter if she's in the service too?

#StarshipTroopers

It's all full and games 'til someone gets an eye put out.

Or a brain. 🫤

#StarshipTroopers

I did not remember *anything* from this movie. Guess I hated it so much the first time, I blocked it out. 😆

#StarshipTroopers

Denise Richards is just an adorable little cutie pie.

#StarshipTroopers

"Arachnid Quarantine Zone" is just not something that should ever need to exist.

#StarshipTroopers

No, Johnny! Don't take the stroll down Washout Lane!

#StarshipTroopers

Hate it when the bugs whack us good, Johnny.

#StarshipTroopers

@courtcan It’s an UGLY planet! A BUG planet!
@courtcan too much #battlestargalactica ? Is that possible?
@alloydflanagan Well no, of course not. 😁 But it's sometimes difficult to keep one universe's norms out of another. 😆
@courtcan Doogie as Gestapo Mind Control Officer was the casting choice of the decade.
@Geoffberner This movie is delightfully unhinged. 😆
@courtcan So unhinged. It doesn't feel like the people in the movie, or even the people making it, know it's a satire? And somehow that makes it a more effective satire? Except Harris. He seems to maybe be the only one who knows. Which makes it even more warped.
@Geoffberner Oh, when I read the book 30 years ago, I was clueless enough to have no idea any of it was satire. 😆
@courtcan @Geoffberner Here's the thing, I don't recall the book being satire either, and I don't think it was. Heinlein dabbled with militarism, crypto-fascism, or whatever you want to call it. Paul Verhoeven, on the other hand, deliberately undermined the political themes of the novel when making the movie. 😎

@ColesStreetPothole @Geoffberner Yeah, I can see that now. Agree with you on Heinlein -- that's one reason I quit reading him. That and his depictions of women.

But I was still a fan in '97, so when the movie didn't line up with the book, I was disappoint. Verhoeven really made it what it needed to be, and what our culture needed it to be. But there were too many people back then like me who didn't get it.

@courtcan @Geoffberner I'm a bit older, and so there was a lot more time before teen me reading Heinlein and adult me watching Verhoeven. I didn't understand the world as much when I was a teen (surprise!) to be upset with Heinlein, but by the time adult me watched the movie, I knew enough to know the movie was more my speed than the book. 🙂 And Verhoeven deliberately put women in the military to fuck with Heinlein's misogyny. 😂
@ColesStreetPothole @Geoffberner Women an minorities all over the place! You love to see it. 😁🤘🖖
@courtcan @Geoffberner And equal! 😁 The first time I saw that shower scene, I lost my shit. 😂 Camaraderie instead of sexualized nudity? What is happening here? It stunned me. In a good way. 🙂
@courtcan
The first time (only?) time I watched this movie 15 years ago, I was so stoned that I lost my ability to suspend disbelief - required to consume works of fiction - and it was a surreal, too real, experience.

@paninid Whooooo, watching it high WOULD be quite the braindoozy!

The only movie I've ever while super high was Dragonslayer (1981). Just a few years ago, and the first time I ever saw the movie. I cannot now claim to have seen the movie. I saw *something*, but I'm not entirely sure it was the movie. 😆

@courtcan I love this movie so much. I have it on DVD. And I am so glad at how it confounds Heinlein fans (even though yes a million years ago I was one too, as a teen).

RIP Diz. 😢

@ColesStreetPothole Yeah, I'm kinda curious as to what my 82yo dad would think of it if he watched it today. He's still a major Heinlein fan and doesn't understand my criticism of the man. *SIGH*
@courtcan He'd probably react the same way you did in '97. Maybe worse? Or maybe not? People can have a fondness for things without being wedded to them.

@courtcan

If you like Heinlein you have to instead think of this as a colorized version of a classic movie. Heinlein’s thoughts are washed away by the Hollywood-ness. It’s definitely not the book.

Not to say it’s not a good movie! I own it on DVD too…

@djg I like the view of it as a colorized version of a classic. It definitely watches that way. With the added flavor of satire, which I had not yet developed the palate for back in 97. 😆

I can't really read Heinlein anymore. Was just telling someone else, I still have a soft spot in my heart for Podkayne, but I can't truck with his militarism and (borderline?) misogyny anymore.

@courtcan

I always liked Door into Summer myself but I agree reading books written in 1957 have a decidedly different feel

@djg They definitely do. It's interesting to see how novel-writing has changed in the relatively few decades since then, as readers' expectations changed.

I know I must've read Door Into Summer, but it's been too long. If I ever get through my current To-Read Shelf (ha!), I'll have to give it another look.

@courtcan
I was only a moderate Heinlein fan. Heavy on trying to inject character accents into dialog, and overly pontificated his views through his characters.

That is my thoroughly uninformed review.

@stargazersmith I'm fully on board with that review. I was a big fan as a teen (and still have a warm spot for Podkayne), but just got to the point where I couldn't read his authoritarianism and (proto-?)misogyny anymore.
@courtcan that happened to me, too. But it's one of my favorite movies now. Absolutely brilliant critique/parody of fascism (particularly of *American* fascism!).
@etherdiver It is so unhinged, hilarious, and weirdly subtle. 😆
@courtcan That cannot be right. 27??? *Does math horrifiedly*

@shadowqueene I know.

I KNOW. 😫😫😫

*crumbles into ancient dust*

@courtcan As a heinlein fan years ago, i immediately despised this film. but as a nerd and dork just loving loud,escapist, friday afternoon action-thriller mayhem, i LOVED this film.

and it continues to get better with age.

exactly the same as heinlein continues to get worse with age. (btw: don’t reread #stranger: it’s totally #cringe)

it’s like there’s some mathematical correlation involved

@kmmfoo Too late. I read it about 15?ish years ago. Did not enjoy, do not recommend. 😫

I agree with you about that mathematical correlation. The older I get, the squickier I feel about a lot of the classic sci-fi and fantasy I grew up loving. They brought me so much joy back then...but once you see, you cannot unsee.