René Vincent Jansen
Martin Rundkvist
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@mrundkvist Well to be fair, I read a lot of shit, and read really fast. But there is a lot of situations where I prefer to listen to stuff, while doing other stuff. (I'm millennial). And sometimes I listen to videos with a dude talking about an article or a podcast about it (or several) to get different perspectives on the topic etc.
@ailnoth I listen to lots of #podcasts. I use YouTube for two purposes only: to explain #boardgames rules and the Double Windsor Tie Knot. TikTok is for children.
@mrundkvist I mean if you are on kids tiktok then yes it is for children, in my carefully curated feed we have discussion about political, HBTQIA+ issues, kink things, archeology, space and science.
Joracle@ailnoth @mrundkvist a 20 second discussion isn't really a discussion.
@joracle Yes, but also Tiktok videos can be 10 minutes now, and they have some weird rollout with up to 60 minutes, but videos in general. @mrundkvist
@ailnoth @mrundkvist and youtube allows videos to be several hours long, this doesn't mean that people will either make or watch them.
kravietz 🦇Debate over an article etc, all you said makes perfect sense. I think the guy is being frustrated about people who provide TikTok videos because it’s also the only source they used, inheriting all the video’s unavoidable simplifications.
There’s another aspect to it - when given a link to an article, it takes me maybe 30 seconds to scan and initially assess its quality (scientific vs popular, sources, references, consistency). When given a 15-60 min long video on YT you are forced to sample it sequentially to see what they’re talking about, and in most cases it’s waste of time.
@kravietz Yes, I agree. But there is another aspect at play here, I just like to yank the chain of @mrundkvist whenever I have the chance to do it. ;)
ktvand@mrundkvist I feel seen.
Final Round Player 😷🇪🇺🍸@mrundkvist Please MSM, link to sources.
Dedalus Root@mrundkvist I'm Gen X and can really appreciate the benefits of long and short-form video and audio format. Sorry, but this post is definitely giving boomer vibes.
@dedalusroot You need to fine-tune your detector for self-deprecating irony. I often have to ask over-literal people to put a post-it note on their screens reading "Martin's jokes usually involve him pretending to misunderstand things".
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Willow "Wolveric" Catkin"Send me the article"
The article:
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Mark Saltveit@mrundkvist l
Lost me at Bananrama. Otherwise. 100%
Lost me at Bananrama. Otherwise. 100%
Virginicus@taoish @mrundkvist Bananarama is still my guilty pleasure.
@Virginicus @mrundkvist
I only know one song, to be fair - their cover of Venus by Shcoking Blue. But I'm still unreasonably angry about what they did to a great tune.
I only know one song, to be fair - their cover of Venus by Shcoking Blue. But I'm still unreasonably angry about what they did to a great tune.
Kevin Karhan 
Piers CawleyA social media screen grab from somewhere. A white douchebro called lloydrang opines:
"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read really fast.
"So, my Millenial and GenZ peeps, I beg you for the love of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.
"In Prince's funky name, amen."
At the time the screen was grabbed, this fatuous gobbet of opinion had 12.1K likes, 624 replies, 855 reposts and 302 shares.
@mrundkvist I'm not sure I quite nailed the NPV there.
lucretia@pdcawley @mrundkvist this is a great example of what's being complained about in the original post, in that you have insisted on providing your own opinion on the text under discussion, instead of just directly providing it for us to read and consider for ourselves.
sunflowerinrain@mrundkvist So true. If there's a transcript, I don't bother watching a slow time-wasting video. (Apologies to #TEDtalk people.)
Another advantage of text is that you can scan back to check something.
Jaime Herazo@mrundkvist
Actual Alt Text without unneeded vitriol:
Tweet by "lloydrang":
"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read
really fast.
So, my Millennial and GenZ peeps, | beg you for the love
of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not
the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.
In Prince's funky name, amen."
excited for the mastodon rise@mrundkvist I'm an elder millenial. I read crazy fast and prefer text.
My partner is genx. She's dyslexic, so she often prefers video content.
I've had coworkers who are gen z hating on video. I've got old relatives who love the new world.
From where I'm sitting, it doesn't feel as generational. I get younger folks are growing up on video a lot more, but I'll bet the ratio isn't that different.
Oh and don't get me started on "old dudes with a 20 minute youtube howto that could've been one picture with a circle and two sentences"
@mrundkvist
You've invoked Prince, so you da man 🔥
You've invoked Prince, so you da man 🔥
@mrundkvist
Where can I find lloydrang?
Where can I find lloydrang?
Michal Bryxí 🌱@mrundkvist That's ... Weird. Millennial here. I, for sure, can't hold attention on a long read. Mainly because 9 times out of 10 half of the words could be cut out without any information loss. But I do read *a lot*. Direct sharing of short format videos for anything else than funsies is quite frowned upon in my circles.
Dan Morgan 
@mrundkvist I feel the same way about YouTube instructional videos. Give me the highlights as bullets and steps in a numbered list. Screenshots optional.
BierFrau♀️♀️@mrundkvist sure, but I think the purpose is different. Gen X is used to reading to absorb information. Younger generations use information to be social. Being social properly takes time.
@mrundkvist And younger generations are very used to accomodating people with reading difficulties. They almost never assume you're fluent in reading.
We would just shove them on the "short bus" and pretend they didn't exist.
@mrundkvist so while it might be a bit of an ego boost that we have all of these "old people superpowers" younger generations are superior to us in a hell of a lot of ways.
We were angry, neglected assholes.
Eistee [Minze/Himbeer]
Kinene⭐🐻@mrundkvist Yes, I get the "snark."
The issue is not really generational, but different learning styles. Many (most) people absorb information through audio/visual means (videos, podcasts, etc.), while others do better with written info.
I prefer text, not just because I read quickly (I do), but I do not remember audio or visual input as well as written input. Lecture "at" me, and without my written notes, I would lose most of what is being presented. I find chatty videos boring and/or annoying; "just cut to the chase, quit blathering... bored now."
Budgegeria 🦜@mrundkvist And while at it, please share links of articles instead of screenshots. Or share both.
Bruce
Frank Barton@mrundkvist AMEN!
or at least make sure that I can run the youtube video at 2x speed
or at least make sure that I can run the youtube video at 2x speed
Hubert Figuière@mrundkvist related pet peeve "tutorials" to use some API only in video form.
Wes Kennedy@mrundkvist @chgowiz co-signed a millennial. I like written form WAY more
Phil Thane ✅
HipsterDM@mrundkvist
Even worse.
Hear about that Olympic breakdancing thing.
Try to find the original video.
All you can find after 30 minutes of looking is 2848484848399 videos of people explaining what happened, with 2 to 3 seconds of the actual video, with the wrong music.
Just let me find the damn original video!
Even worse.
Hear about that Olympic breakdancing thing.
Try to find the original video.
All you can find after 30 minutes of looking is 2848484848399 videos of people explaining what happened, with 2 to 3 seconds of the actual video, with the wrong music.
Just let me find the damn original video!
Patrick (he/him) 🥑
@mrundkvist As a Millennial, I would like to be excluded from this narrative.
Anne@mrundkvist I’m with ya on this. I’d rather skim or read an article.
Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ@mrundkvist My biggest problems with the video links is 99-44/100% of them are a half hour long saying what could have been said completely in 15 seconds.
Haelwenn /элвэн/ 
@mrundkvist Weirdest is like aren't Millennials / early-GenZ SMS and chatrooms generation?
At least I somehow ended up preferring text for both news and communication.
At least I somehow ended up preferring text for both news and communication.
feld@mrundkvist I can't search a goddamn video, give me the text *please* 🥺
HilaryThis. Nearly EVERYONE can read faster than they can view or listen. And with reading, you can skim to find the bit you're actually looking for.
For conveying information*, written text beats every other method hands down. Has done since literacy was invented a few millennia ago. Still does. Always will.
*Communication can be about conveying mood, emotion etc. Information isn't always the primary aim. But when information is the aim, just use text goddammit.
Demiurg@mrundkvist I am a Millenial and I support this. I can't go through videos when I need a quick fix - give me the written docs!
But I don't think it has that much to do with generation. It's more of a learner preference. Some prefer text, some more audio and some more video.
But I don't think it has that much to do with generation. It's more of a learner preference. Some prefer text, some more audio and some more video.
Patrick Lam 
rob mclennan@mrundkvist i support this message;
Not Text; Didn’t Read
Also we need the help of ALL GEN X, Y AND Z, Latino, Black, White, Japanese, Orient, Chinese, Europeans, Middle Eastern, Africans all legal immigrants to help save Democracy and Freedoms
AND VOTE BLUE IN 2024.
RID US ALL OF THE STENCH OF TRUMPISM AND MAGA.
Christine McCloud@mrundkvist It’s fast to skim to the answer you want than to listen for it.
That said, when I do listen to podcasts/videos, I listen at 1.5-2x speed so I don’t lose interest.
That said, when I do listen to podcasts/videos, I listen at 1.5-2x speed so I don’t lose interest.
Earthy in EV heaven@mrundkvist Yeah, I can't stand how slow it all is
Karl Baron@mrundkvist @europlus The article is paywalled, and video ads are the only way to get paid producing content like tutorials
Trip@mrundkvist I'm not sure if it's because it was framed as a generational thing, or because it called out a popular social media platform, but it's just amazing how many people this simple concept has apparently offended.
I definitely process text much faster than audio (or video), and can focus on it more easily, so being directed to a video for a thing is immensely frustrating. I was born in the 80s, so possibly this does relate to age? I'd never really considered it, but it's possible
Benno 
Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary@mrundkvist Or worse yet, the YouTube video of the guy reading the article to us with no commentary, simply scrolling as he goes. I'm sure that's of use to the blind, but I process text far more easily than speech.
Estarriol, Terrorist Dragon@mrundkvist I, in the name of the Eurythmics second this motion.
Matt HallI do read faster than other people talk. I do read faster than I can process other people's words.
Just lemme read the article. <3