I have been daily driving FLX1 from Furilabs for few weeks now.
Believe me this is the phone which will finally gain some market share to linux mobile.
It has all the best achievements of the linux mobile community.
It has been in market for month and it is allready better than any other linux phone that I ever had (I basicly have/had them all - starting from the BQ Aquaris)
Feel free to ask questions I can try answer. #flx1 #furilabs #linuxmobile #mobilelinux #phosh @furilabs
In my mobile linux adventure I understanded that all I wanted was similar experience what I get from laptop linux aka. it should compete with Windows but you can choose how it behaves or looks. Honestly, there have never been options like this before.
In the perfect world this would be mainline device. But I literally have all the options side by side. This is enjoyable to use. Mainline devices are enjoyable to use if you choose to love them before you use them.
@bart @furilabs (I have not tried all mainline devices because thanks to pmos and people like you the list is growing rapidly). So just to be clear I don't want to be rude - I love pmos and I have donated pmos.
But when I said "best achievements of the linux mobile community" I literally ment also libhybris and halium.
This will be the device which you could give to your grandmother (maybe in 2025) and she could enjoy it and make call for you (just an example of the idea - mines are dead lol)
@alaraajavamma @furilabs I just think the fact it doesn't run on mainline isn't mentioned enough. It's not "just" a Linux phone, it's one with caveats. Your kernel is still outdated, you can't run everything you want (for example KDE Plasma), you're missing out on modern components of the Linux mobile stack like ModemManager.
For existing Android phones that could be argued to be acceptable, but this is a brand new phone targeting the Linux mobile crowd. That makes it _not_ acceptable
@bart @furilabs Personally, I don't want another new phone that I crowdfund or donate to volunteer developers that will be almost good (again) in the next five years.
I've seen/been that route too many times already.
I understand what you're getting at and partially agree. Often the problem is just that if you try to achieve perfection, you don't even achieve tolerable level.
Or is your point that you want Furilabs to mention it more clear on the website? I can ask them to do that.
@BrianA 81voltd is packaged in #postmarketOS now: https://pkgs.postmarketos.org/package/master/postmarketos/aarch64/81voltd
I am quite positive that 81voltd will land in postmarketOS 24.12 (or, maybe, before in a service pack, so that you can use stable - which does not suffer from 'breakage by upstream' as much as edge does).
Also, regarding Plasma Mobile: Plasma Mobile 6 is a lot better than previous releases, I am writing this from Plasma Mobile on OnePlus 6, happily accepting rare weirdness for a better virtual keyboard.
@linmob That's awesome, but 81voltd isn't the issue, and neither is edge. Even in PMOS stable call issues still happen on the OP6.
Plasma Mobile is definitely a lot better from a few years ago, but I do not think its in a usable state still. There's a number of virtual keyboard bugs and quirks, text selection overlays are broken, WiFi disconnects from time to time (not something that happens in phosh on the same device in my experience), and a bunch of other issues.
@BrianA Edge is part of the problem, having audio stack updates break configs can't be avoided when rolling.
Yes, there are more problems, but they are intermittent and hard to debug - and an excellent opportunity to contribute 😉
Regarding the PlaMo WiFi issue: https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/issues/1049#note_825620485 That workaround solves it, and yeah, one could just package, e.g, a daily cronjob that uses sed to alter every config file and pretend to have solved the issue - I am glad postmarketOS don't do that.
@RannyBergamotte Support is excellent, Furilabs people are very friendly and active in Telegram group.
Pain points: I am speaking as end-user and I have not find out anything big. Some small issues but they will be fixed in the next update cycle.
SCool points: this is designed to be mobile phone from the beginning - so it is fast but does not eat your battery or turn hot when use it. Removable battery. Waterproof. Fully working camera. Working finger print scanner with Phosh integration oob.
@RannyBergamotte @alaraajavamma
Just for the record: The Librem 5 has pogo pins for extension. There's a breakout board for that (https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5-rigid-flex-breakout-board/) but you can also do without it.
There's also a breakout board to repurpose the M.2 slot:
https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/librem5-m2-breakout
Yes and.no. At the moment there is issue that I have to toggle mobile data on/off after reboot before it works. After that it works.
But there are still something odd - like signal shows 5G strenght like 3% and still got faster download/upload speed than from my wifi.
Furilabs are working on both of those things.
I am not in North America so I am not sure. I have been following the conversation in the Furilabs Telegram group and I believe they got it working atleast for one people in the USA.
My deGoogled android reports my location to my Home Assistant server. It's fairly important for some of my automations.
I'm trying to figure out how to make that happen on Linux phone. Not having one to test on makes that difficult, lol. None of my Linux machines have GPS in them.
Also, I rely pretty heavily on GPS navigation to get around. How well is that working on the FLX1?
@hellomiakoda @furilabs
Should be quite easy because at the moment FLX1 works like this:
If you use android-container the GPS is locked to android apps - and GPS works as good as any modern smartphone. You will get location immediately.
If you use this method you can use the same methods as you use with deGoogled android device.
If you choose to go with linux route you need to first stop android-container. GPS works then also there and there are methods to share location with linux too.
Sounds like the ideal workflow is to eventually migrate away from using the Android container.
Oof, sorry for repeatative replies earlier. Pain can really cause confusion and disorentarion. #embarassed
@hellomiakoda @furilabs No worries.
I am not sure are there any as polished options as in android - maybe with Nextcloud ther is, I am not sure.
What my end-user brains would suggest for an idea:
Use mmcli to get location details and output that for example to txt file.
Then if you wan't do some formatting for that information so the location info is easier to understand.
Then sync that periodically with cron or similar.
But options are endless :)
@alaraajavamma @furilabs So far, it looks like attempting gpsd might be my best bet. But I can't test cause I don't have anything Linux with GPS yet.
I guess plan B is
if WiFi ssid = KodaNet, Miakoda is home.
Wait... I might actually be able to pull that from my router, seeing if [Mac address] is connected. My router is already connected with a HA integration. Broken at the moment, but I haven't attempted to fix that yet, might be as simple as needing to reauth.
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