@bart @furilabs

In my mobile linux adventure I understanded that all I wanted was similar experience what I get from laptop linux aka. it should compete with Windows but you can choose how it behaves or looks. Honestly, there have never been options like this before.
In the perfect world this would be mainline device. But I literally have all the options side by side. This is enjoyable to use. Mainline devices are enjoyable to use if you choose to love them before you use them.

@bart @furilabs (I have not tried all mainline devices because thanks to pmos and people like you the list is growing rapidly). So just to be clear I don't want to be rude - I love pmos and I have donated pmos.

But when I said "best achievements of the linux mobile community" I literally ment also libhybris and halium.

This will be the device which you could give to your grandmother (maybe in 2025) and she could enjoy it and make call for you (just an example of the idea - mines are dead lol)

@alaraajavamma @furilabs I just think the fact it doesn't run on mainline isn't mentioned enough. It's not "just" a Linux phone, it's one with caveats. Your kernel is still outdated, you can't run everything you want (for example KDE Plasma), you're missing out on modern components of the Linux mobile stack like ModemManager.

For existing Android phones that could be argued to be acceptable, but this is a brand new phone targeting the Linux mobile crowd. That makes it _not_ acceptable

@BrianA 81voltd is packaged in #postmarketOS now: https://pkgs.postmarketos.org/package/master/postmarketos/aarch64/81voltd

I am quite positive that 81voltd will land in postmarketOS 24.12 (or, maybe, before in a service pack, so that you can use stable - which does not suffer from 'breakage by upstream' as much as edge does).

Also, regarding Plasma Mobile: Plasma Mobile 6 is a lot better than previous releases, I am writing this from Plasma Mobile on OnePlus 6, happily accepting rare weirdness for a better virtual keyboard.

@linmob That's awesome, but 81voltd isn't the issue, and neither is edge. Even in PMOS stable call issues still happen on the OP6.

Plasma Mobile is definitely a lot better from a few years ago, but I do not think its in a usable state still. There's a number of virtual keyboard bugs and quirks, text selection overlays are broken, WiFi disconnects from time to time (not something that happens in phosh on the same device in my experience), and a bunch of other issues.