I have been daily driving FLX1 from Furilabs for few weeks now.

Believe me this is the phone which will finally gain some market share to linux mobile.
It has all the best achievements of the linux mobile community.
It has been in market for month and it is allready better than any other linux phone that I ever had (I basicly have/had them all - starting from the BQ Aquaris)

Feel free to ask questions I can try answer. #flx1 #furilabs #linuxmobile #mobilelinux #phosh @furilabs

@alaraajavamma @furilabs No mainline though, just libhybris and Halium. So not actually that interesting

@bart @furilabs

In my mobile linux adventure I understanded that all I wanted was similar experience what I get from laptop linux aka. it should compete with Windows but you can choose how it behaves or looks. Honestly, there have never been options like this before.
In the perfect world this would be mainline device. But I literally have all the options side by side. This is enjoyable to use. Mainline devices are enjoyable to use if you choose to love them before you use them.

@bart @furilabs (I have not tried all mainline devices because thanks to pmos and people like you the list is growing rapidly). So just to be clear I don't want to be rude - I love pmos and I have donated pmos.

But when I said "best achievements of the linux mobile community" I literally ment also libhybris and halium.

This will be the device which you could give to your grandmother (maybe in 2025) and she could enjoy it and make call for you (just an example of the idea - mines are dead lol)

@alaraajavamma @furilabs I just think the fact it doesn't run on mainline isn't mentioned enough. It's not "just" a Linux phone, it's one with caveats. Your kernel is still outdated, you can't run everything you want (for example KDE Plasma), you're missing out on modern components of the Linux mobile stack like ModemManager.

For existing Android phones that could be argued to be acceptable, but this is a brand new phone targeting the Linux mobile crowd. That makes it _not_ acceptable

@bart @furilabs Personally, I don't want another new phone that I crowdfund or donate to volunteer developers that will be almost good (again) in the next five years.
I've seen/been that route too many times already.

I understand what you're getting at and partially agree. Often the problem is just that if you try to achieve perfection, you don't even achieve tolerable level.

Or is your point that you want Furilabs to mention it more clear on the website? I can ask them to do that.