When you live in a country, where the dictator can never be wrong, the only ones left to blame are the citizens.
So now that Putin has killed so many young men, that birth rates are dropping catastrophically, Russian Deputy Minister of Justice Vsevolod Vukolov reports, that new laws will make it illegal for women not to have children.
Do try to keep up, Republicans — you are so much behind the forefront of the dystopian nightmare.
You forgot their getting money by putting those kids up for adoption to Westerners. Orphans were a cash crop. I had friends that adopted 2 of those orphans. Those poor kids had real psychological issues that no one could ever fix. The Ceuacescus got what they deserved.
@kravietz @randahl I think they also want yet another lever to use against people who speak too much.
They already have quite a variety and one thing they all have in common - their definitions are broad and murky. E.g. "discrediting Russian Armed Forces" can (and is) applied to anything from anti war stance to discussing casualties or equipment problems. "Propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations" isn't just about LGBT but anything sexual or gender related if it is tiniest bit unorthodox.
And in public discussions about demography, social services, school education, expensive housing, whatever people quite often say things like "I don't want to have [more] children in these conditions" and it resonates with many.
I guess the government would prefer people being quiet about this too.
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#ClimateChange is one factor for people in western countries to
>> say things like "I don't want to have [more] children in these conditions" and it resonates with many. <<
We should voice this and speak about it more often.
>> I guess the government would prefer people being quiet about this too. <<
(sorry for hijacking this)
They did, but it was also very typical for Russian system - the “LGBT ideology” ban resulted in show repressions, show arrests at gay bars… but then you realised that actually all these gay bars were fully operational in the first place, and there were plenty of them in big towns. So the ban was just another selective quasi-legal tool for repressions against some, specifically because it can be applied selectively. And, of course, it did change literally nothing in terms of demography :)
Russia has legal duality - the law on paper is one thing, the actual rules are another. Legally, homosexuality itself isn’t illegal but it’s illegal to “promote non-traditional sexual values”. But the law doesn’t matter because when they need, they arrest (as they did in clubs in Moscow) or even kill people for being homosexual (as they did in Chechnya). So we know 1) the formal law doesn’t really mean much, 2) when they want something, they just do it.
But with childlessness it’s a different because it’s about forcing women to do something rather than preventing them. One tool is propaganda, but few women are ready to get pregnant merely for the glory of Putin, so I suspect their methods will be based more on financial pressure - right now a soldier’s wife can get quite rich (in Russian terms), so they may for example add a bonus for soldier’s families where the woman is pregnant.
And I’m not in any way justifying Moscow or claiming they’re moving in the right direction, but it’s important to understand the mechanics of their state correctly because only then we can understand why they do what they do. For example, no sane person would join Russian army so we assumed they won’t be able to mobilise enough soldiers in 2022-2023… unless we saw that they recruit people who were for decades living at $100 per month and now are being offered $10k bonus.
Even Aunt Lydia didn't see this one coming. Praise Be and Under His Eye to all citizens and Handmaids.
@randahl .. very interesting fact is that IT'S an ILLEGAL practice had returned to CHINA about HAVING CONCUBINES ... HIDDEN secrets POLYGAMY
WE call them SUGAR BABIES in many other places women who have SUGAR DADDIES..
THE WOMAN approached by a male confidant of the person doing the proposal & their job is to secure the deal for the man...
Set up apartment & can even involve friends of the female where even husband's can be chosen for the female eventually after so much time ...
Part of me wants to be snarky and say "and how are you going to enforce women having children", and then realized with horror Margaret Atwood already gave us an answer to that.
@ofa_Jeremy @randahl @Krosen_nw It's called Gilead. Coming very soon to a red state near you, since our Republicans get their marching orders from these guys.
There is a reason the GOP platform committee meets in secret.
Russia, America, Israel, France...#fascism is everywhere. There is no forefront once you fall in craziness. Just a bad trip to the black hole the silly guys are leading you to.
The GOP gets a boner watching this
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