591: That's Why I Like Computers
https://atp.fm/591

At WWDC 2024, together at last!

Accidental Tech Podcast: 591: That's Why I Like Computers

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

@atpfm is there no bootleg? Or is something broken with my feed and/or overcast?
@atpfm never mind. Refreshing manually a few times in overcast has made the episode appear
@pilif @atpfm I’m seeing the same , bootleg is same length as the members episode (haven’t listened to either yet though)

@atpfm
@siracusa

I updated my table of supported Macs here:

https://mstdn.social/@dschaub/112595140615272115

I find it interesting that the non-T2 iMac (2019) remains, but we lost two T2 sluggish 2-core Intel 'Y' class MacBook Airs:

- MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2018)
- MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2019)

My bet would be: the iMac (2019) loses support next year, and that is the LAST Intel macOS release.

Apple's Table:

DavidSchaub (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image The only Macs that lost new macOS support today are: - MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2018) - MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2019) Maybe those slow 2 core (4 thread) CPUs with T2 are just not up to the task? Older 4 core Mac minis still get the new OS.

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@atpfm fwiw, the 2D -> 3D photo conversion in AVP is very good, and the experience is miraculous. i was skeptical going in, but it was the first time i had a profound emotional reaction to a 3D photo in the headset, because all the “actual” 3D photos are so recent, but using it on older (and generally higher-quality) photos made it feel much more special.

@austinha @atpfm

I'm happy to hear it works well.

I was kinda weirded-out by the demo when the angle of the shot was following the camera not the user, and the angle of view effect seemed extreme.

@atpfm @marcoarment great title, and so very John @siracusa! ❤️
@atpfm I hear AI features “limited to 17 Pro and above” which I’m guessing means 15 pro?

@rconti @atpfm

Yes. It requires the A17 Pro or M* SoC, which means:
- the iPhone 15 Pro,
- the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and
- all Apple Silicon Macs

@dschaub thanks!! Didn’t catch that “17 pro” was a chip designation and not a phone designation. @atpfm

@rconti @atpfm

Oh, and I suppose an assortment of iPads:

- M1 iPad Air
- M2 iPad Air
- M1 iPad Pros
- M2 iPad Pros
- M4 iPad Pros

???

@atpfm You know who was sitting beside @caseyliss at WWDC24? Adjacent Snell
@atpfm @marcoarment Love the energy in this episode :)
@atpfm The app that demanded your Contacts access was Clubhouse. Remember Clubhouse? 🕯️
@atpfm Small sample size, but ATP hosts appear to talk faster when they’re gathered around a table. I’m half an hour in, and have had to wind down from 1.5x to 1.2x just to keep up!
@atpfm That long “Ending theme” chapter made me wonder if we were going to be treated to an extended club mix of the theme.
@atpfm Were there no topic chapter bookmarks on this one?
@buck The episode was edited and posted in a car while driving from San Jose to San Francisco, so some compromises may have been made.
@atpfm It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me. (Actually, I only got the streak locked in around the series 2. Still. I am thankful for my lack of serious injury or illness over the last 7 years.)
@kemayo so I guess the question is, do you feel the ability to pause is a bad thing for you? Will it hurt motivation? Or feel like “cheating”? Or are you a fan of it?
@rconti Oh, I think it’s a great feature to add. It might make it easier to “cheat” (which you can already do with workouts if you want), but being able to take a day/week/month off for injury/recovery if you need to is well worth it.
@atpfm The modem sound in the bootleg this week really caught me off guard 😅
@sharding a proper jump scare.
@janl also the first time I’ve heard the theme song since the bootleg launched! Not complaining!

@atpfm
So, the early comments on the new Photos app UI are… not good.

I feel claustrophobic just looking at this screenshot.

@atpfm Music in the bootleg threw me! I think this is the first time I’ve heard the updated theme song
@atpfm with all the crap going on in the country in regards to the right to an abortion combined with all the talk about privacy in the keynote, I feel Apple lost an opportunity to talk or at least cleverly hint about it in regards to the Health app now being able to track gestational age. I’m assuming there’s no way the government could get their hands on that info….maybe?
@atpfm @caseyliss Please tell me the three of you got a photo together, we need to see the joy on @siracusa 's face!
@siracusa Marco didn’t get the shirt memo?

@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss

Casey's joy is palpable. He seems like a good friend.

@siracusa

By pure chance I'm wearing my “Believe" shirt today

@DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss

@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss I wish I had nerdy friends I could share this momentous moment with
@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss This is like when characters of your favorite tv shows do cross-over episodes. All three of you together in the same room for a photo ❤️🤯

@siracusa my three favorite podcasters that I feel like I know personally but they have no idea who I am. It’s a weird feeling 😅

You guys are the best and you bring me much joy. Thank you 🙏

@JoeWelch @siracusa I’ve been feeling this exact thing a lot recently! Especially in the WWDC episode, where you can feel the energy and excitement in the room. It’s really touching!
@JoeWelch i know! feel the same. they're like your buddies in a way. if atp stopped tomorrow i'd be so upset. they better do this podcast together for as long as Apple is still a company ie the remainder of our liftime.
@torsteinv same! It’s the only podcast I never miss an episode of. Love it. And it’s not because of the content but because of the people.
@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss you're right, it is more of a football
@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss So happy for you guys that you got to spend some quality time together!
@siracusa @atpfm @caseyliss mildly amused/surprised that @marcoarment isn't wearing a #atpfm t-shirt.
@siracusa @DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss so this is what joy looks like?

@siracusa @atpfm @caseyliss btw, did see you three at the talk show, but my voice was gone and so it seemed counterproductive to say hi.

Hope y’all have been having a good time at my office - seems like it.

@Drwave I didn’t see you! I would have said hi and then asked you questions that you could have answered by typing on your phone screen. Technology!

@Drwave Aw, bummer! I wish I had seen you, but I get it.

Next year! 🤞🏻

@Drwave @siracusa @DrChris @atpfm no silly this is

@caseyliss @siracusa @DrChris @atpfm and I hope you all go see Joy in her new adventure this weekend in the theater!

#InsideOut2

I know I will be there this weekend to cheer her (and Pixar) on.

@Drwave we just showed the kids the first one a couple months back, and Mikaela in particular is _obsessed_. We will absolutely be seeing it!
@siracusa ascending order of height and hairiness
@DrChris @atpfm @caseyliss @siracusa "The Joy on Siracusa's Face" would be a nice ATP episode title. :-)