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NOISEBOB@antifaintl WORD!
Wurzelmann@antifaintl heads up: your alt text is cut off at the middle
Schafstelze 🎗🖤@Dingsextrem @antifaintl don't mention it 🤝
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Attached: 1 image Das was da steht ist, so ehrlich sollten wir sein, nur die Wahrheit für einen teil der antfaschist:innen. Viele Menschen die in den letzten Jahrzehnten tatkräftig gegen Nazis vorgegangen sind wollten eben nicht eigentlich weed rauchen und Fernsehen gucken wie im Screenshot unten sondern eine ganz andere Gesellschaft ohne kapital und im besten Fall auch ohne Staat. Viele sahen und sehen antifa als notwendigen und sinnvollen schritt auf dem weg dahin. Diese Gesellschaft ist beschissen, brutal, ungerecht. Es ziemlich klar dass mensch gegen Nazis und alle anderen vorgehen muss, die alles noch schlimmer machen wollen. Meiner Meinung nach, und viele die sich heute als #antifa sehen (und es in einem gewissen Sinne sind!) werden mir widersprechen: es darf nicht darum gehen die real existierende Demokratie mitsamt Staat, Repression, grenzen & abschieberegimen, den real existierenden Imperialismus zu verteidigen. Und viele antifas schöpften und schöpfen ihre kraft und militanz daraus dass es um mehr geht als das schlimme gegen das schlimmere zu verteidigen. Im besten Fall sind wir nicht eigentlich harmlos, sondern entschlossene revolutionäre.
@niedlichenacktschnecke @antifaintl Gute Ergänzung
Barry C
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@antifaintl This is absolute nonsense.
Re-watch Game of Thrones? After that ending?
No one does that.
uoou (moved to @@lettosprey @antifaintl Yeah, I was previously anti-fascist but this is making me reconsider.
Tom Bellin 
@lettosprey @antifaintl "re-editing game of thrones"
eot@antifaintl nazi are the worst of the worst, comparing them to antifa is outrageously stupid
Raven Luni@antifaintl The problem with nazis is they actually believe the converse of that.
Elric the damned@antifaintl right on.
@antifaintl I love Antifa! Fuck the fascism.
Kenneth@antifaintl Not a direct action guy—I've neither the sensibility nor the discipline— but it's glossed over that antifa does more than that. Antifa does a ~lot~ of research.
@Kencf618033 Absolutely. Anti-fascism is 95% other stuff, but it's the militant confrontational stuff that gets all the attention.
@antifaintl
What's the military saying? "Amateurs discuss strategy. Professionals discuss logistics."
What's the military saying? "Amateurs discuss strategy. Professionals discuss logistics."
शिवदम् Ⓥ@antifaintl Wow! Very good assessment!
Clockwork ☃️✒️Antifascists must be stopped before they rewatch Game of Thrones!!
@clockwooork IT'S TOO LATE!
Mark vW@antifaintl Streetfighting Nazis is the stupidest strategy imaginable. Consider the Weimar-Era German Communist streetfighting thugs. Prime Nazi strategy is creating fear while positioning themselves as the guarantors of order and stability. Streetfighting plays right into that (note that Nazis are never a majority party). It is also idiotic tactically, because 8 or 9 times out of 10 the cops will protect Nazi streetfighters over anti-Nazi streetfighters. Suspect Putin propaganda here.
mathew@markvonwahlde @antifaintl Do please enlighten everyone as to the best ways to fight fascism.
@mathew @antifaintl That is not even hard. (1) political engagement; (2) willingly compromise with non-nazi political enemies, (3) work for strong unions.
@markvonwahlde @antifaintl Weimar Germany had (1) over half the population voting (2) a long term coalition between left and center parties and (3) strong unions.
@mathew @antifaintl Your coalition argument is dead wrong.
@mathew @antifaintl Bruening was governing by edict.
@markvonwahlde @antifaintl Brüning was from the coalition's Centre Party and was chief executive of the trades unions until 1930. How does his being unable form a coalition majority after Nazi election gains, and so resorting to governing by edict, support the idea that a coalition and unions are the way to avoid fascism?
@mathew @antifaintl How does an argumentative question further discussion?
@markvonwahlde @mathew How do your three solutions to fascism stop them from murdering people right now?
80+ years of anti-fascist tactics demonstrates that a militant opposition willing to confront them in the streets and physically defend communities from them is effective, but maybe you haven't paid attention to history post 1945?
80+ years of anti-fascist tactics demonstrates that a militant opposition willing to confront them in the streets and physically defend communities from them is effective, but maybe you haven't paid attention to history post 1945?
username@markvonwahlde as someone who used to subscribe to this nonsense take: the true history of antifascism involves physical resistance as part of a diversity of tactics, e.g. see Dave Hann's book of that name https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17221692-physical-resistance
As to why this is, consider how effective fascists are at presenting themselves as providing safety if they lose streetfights, and how much physical harm they're able to cause when not resisted (e.g. look at the EDL in Luton in the UK in 2011) - especially given the police collaboration that you currently point out.
Estelle Blanc@markvonwahlde @antifaintl Unfortunately when it comes to fascism there's no easy solution. There will always be collateral damage. The important thing is stopping nazis and mitigating harm to nazi victims as much as possible. Some people are going to be hurt no matter what because there is no simple solution.
That's why fascism must be uprooted as soon as it sprouts. Because if it grows enough you can't chop it down without crushing something.
⚜️Δρakakiς🍁We shouldn’t need Marxists to spread this message.
Anti-fascists are politically aware people who oppose violent, authoritarian political movements. They don’t, as a group, promote any particular ideology, but they oppose all that rely on violence, or threats thereof, and propaganda to survive.
Anti-fascists are not so much activists as a defensive bulwark against regression toward atavistic, pre-political (read semi-religious) social structures which comprise the essence of Fascism.
From @antifaintl
https://kolektiva.social/users/antifaintl/statuses/112581421474165017
𝗖 𝗔 𝗧"they [anti-fascists] oppose all [ideologies] that rely on violence, or threats thereof, and propaganda to survive."
No, anti-fascists oppose fascism specifically. You shouldn't add things to the definition of anti-fascist.
RevJeber@antifaintl
I'm not a libertarian or a Marxist, but I couldn't agree more with that.
I'm not a libertarian or a Marxist, but I couldn't agree more with that.
LettuceLeafer@antifaintl I don't understand how this is impressive. This kinda behavior is like exactly what makes most antifa people super dislikable. Like this is the way of relating to the world of a conservative. Change happens we gotta stop it. After that tien to go back to eating brunch.
Sure fuck Nazis is cool af when ppl do it. But like there is a ton of way more fucked up shit going on than Nazis. All the homies behind bars, all the animals killed, environmental devestation that will displace billions of people, people dying of dope all the time, people on the street dying I could go on.
No if the Nazis go away I don't just and go drink craft beer. I fucking hate society and will fuck it up over and over because it's hell and an oppressive shit hole. Nazis going away shouldn't make one feel relived and give up struggle lol.
It should be proactive like go out and fight oppressive shits. No ideally antifa shouldn't go away and stop. They get the Nazis and go fuck up more oppressive shit. Not just give up. WTF
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Niedliche Nacktschnecke (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Das was da steht ist, so ehrlich sollten wir sein, nur die Wahrheit für einen teil der antfaschist:innen. Viele Menschen die in den letzten Jahrzehnten tatkräftig gegen Nazis vorgegangen sind wollten eben nicht eigentlich weed rauchen und Fernsehen gucken wie im Screenshot unten sondern eine ganz andere Gesellschaft ohne kapital und im besten Fall auch ohne Staat. Viele sahen und sehen antifa als notwendigen und sinnvollen schritt auf dem weg dahin. Diese Gesellschaft ist beschissen, brutal, ungerecht. Es ziemlich klar dass mensch gegen Nazis und alle anderen vorgehen muss, die alles noch schlimmer machen wollen. Meiner Meinung nach, und viele die sich heute als #antifa sehen (und es in einem gewissen Sinne sind!) werden mir widersprechen: es darf nicht darum gehen die real existierende Demokratie mitsamt Staat, Repression, grenzen & abschieberegimen, den real existierenden Imperialismus zu verteidigen. Und viele antifas schöpften und schöpfen ihre kraft und militanz daraus dass es um mehr geht als das schlimme gegen das schlimmere zu verteidigen. Im besten Fall sind wir nicht eigentlich harmlos, sondern entschlossene revolutionäre.