Map of US train system in 1890 and today.
@petergleick Passenger trains, one assumes. I imagine the freight network has a lot more in common with the red spiderweb in the first image.
As @pjohanneson guesses the overall network is denser but very little is used for passenger traffic. I also suspect that the “capillaries” of sidings and short lines weren’t visible in the older map and are largely gone today. Map from @openrailwaymap
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Map of US train system in 1890 and today.
@petergleick Passenger trains, one assumes. I imagine the freight network has a lot more in common with the red spiderweb in the first image.
As @pjohanneson guesses the overall network is denser but very little is used for passenger traffic. I also suspect that the “capillaries” of sidings and short lines weren’t visible in the older map and are largely gone today. Map from @openrailwaymap
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@rmartinnielsen @openrailwaymap @petergleick The times I've traveled on Via in Canada, one major component of the experience was waiting for not-insignificant chunks of time for a freight train to pass so that we could continue.

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#Capitalism was supposed to make life better, no?

This is just corruption to the core.

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No. Making life better for those other than the owners of the means of production under any definition of traditional capitalism cannot be inferred.
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The problem lies with traditional capitalism which has been around for 400 years. But tens of millions of workers could receive excellent wages and Nordic-style social benefits under #CommonsCapitalism which would substanially increase their standards of living. The poor would be raised up out of poverty. Ownership of the means of production would stop accumulating in the wealthy.
@chu @petergleick Ah yes, capitalism is when the government consolidates twenty railroads into one monopoly.

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as late as the 1960s we used to take the train from Washington state to visit relatives in San Antonio, Tx. It seems like things really fell apart in the 1980s under Reagan’s deregulation.

@wa7iut @petergleick I think a pretty good case could be made that Regan and spiritual heirs are some of the worst things that ever happened to the US.
@petergleick But hey, we now have poorly run airlines so we’re good…
@petergleick I’d love to boost - can you add AltText, please?
@petergleick I'm surprised they have trains in the south and they don't think is some demonic thing out to get them.
@unlucio @petergleick They don't even show in that map the I-20 corridor rail that will connect Meridian, MS through North Louisiana to Dallas. I was surprised that there are some mayors on the corridor that are actively pushing for an Amtrak service to run through.
@petergleick that’s not even today - it’s a proposed new expansion map. (I can tell because it shows Amtrak in Nashville. I wish!)

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I found this map of active rail lines as of 2023. Is it wrong?

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I was reading a little more about passenger rail in the US and it seems buses have a slightly lower carbon footprint per mile than trains. I was surprised.

They are both a lot less than cars. Forget about planes' footprint.

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That was for passenger travel.

For shipping rail is 4x less CO2 than using trucks.

@HikerGeek @petergleick you can look up carbon and energy use per passenger mile. Cars are obviously worst by far, and bicycles best, but air travel is surpringly competitive on some routes. High speed rail however is not great by that metric. But has advantage that can be fully electrified thus offering diverse energy sources, not just carbon fuels.

Many come down to occupancy, particularly relevant in buses trains. Airlines can't make profit if planes aren't near full so optimized.

@petergleick My state has had zero rail passenger service for so long, nobody would be likely to use it if it magically came back.
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Why you gotta do us like that on a Saturday?
@petergleick This cannot be true, right? How is that possible? It looks very much like just a map of the most important lines or something

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A nice pair of maps would be China then and now, of their adoption of rail.

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Jeez
So Wyoming and Idaho have a good as no #railways at all??
Staggering at a time when ppl need to transition away from FFs..
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Unused railroad tracks are a good place to look for endangered plants, such as remnants of the original prairie.

@petergleick even with such a smaller land area, I lament the loss of many lines we had in the UK 60 years ago. And even worse the fact many routes were then not protected, and sold off for housing/commercial development - so no chance of reinstating.

The lately we tried HS2 (our second high speed ie > 125 mph line). That's half canned.

This is one area that is AMAZING in china. Travelled on high speed (300/350 kmh) over there multiple times. fast, prompt, clean, brilliant.