Greg Thompson
Steve Troughton-SmithThese new iPads Pro are clearly the best iPads ever made, and most powerful hardware in this form factor by a long shot.
Which is why it pains me that the most excitement I can drum up is an exasperated sigh
Francisco Tolmasky@stroughtonsmith Being the best of your product is literally the floor of a new version of a product. Like, of course the new iPad isn't going to be SLOWER than the old one. Or twice as thick or something. You get zero points in my book for delivering a faster product years later, that is the point. The only way it's not better is due to catastrophic error, either design-wise (like butterfly keyboards…), or bug-wise (like something requiring a recall).
Travis 'Nep' SmithI'm looking at the new iPad models, and they are amazing, truly amazing... but so still is my 2018 1st gen iPad Pro.
Faster chip (which I never notice lagging now), slightly better front camera (which I rarely use), and it's .6 mm thinner and 24 grams lighter (5 nickels). It's crazy to me selling as "Incredibly portable in a stunning new design" when it's exactly the same black metal rectangle.
https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-11-m4,ipad-air-11-m2,ipad-pro-11-1st-gen
Robert Petersen 
@stroughtonsmith Angry Birds at 5000fps
linear2202@stroughtonsmith will all depend on the upcoming software announcements at WWDC. Otherwise this great hardware seems for not.
Michael Smith@stroughtonsmith The thing that is irritating me is the prices. The price of an iPad 10th generation didn't go down $50 (I know it did), the cost of an entry level iPad went up $100. Parents everywhere can cringe lol.
Ernesto Monasterio@atobsmith I’m not following your logic. The 9th gen iPad was $329. The 10th gen iPad was $449. The 10th gen iPad is now $349.
The price increase was $20. Unless you’re counting “sale” prices of the 9th gen iPad on 3rd party retailers. But we don’t know the new “sale” price of the 10th gen yet.
For all intent and purposes, the entry level price got a $20 bump, which isn’t much considering how much better the 10th gen iPad is.
@atobsmith I know, but my point is, we don’t know what the 10th gen will retail for when “on sale” from now on.
Also, that the 10th gen went from $449 to $349.
You can’t compare Apple retail prices to other retailers. The 10th gen iPad was already going for $349 “on sale” on certain stores.
Karl@stroughtonsmith 1000% iPad OS need to evolve to allow users to take advantage of the hardware in a way that best suits THEM and not what Apple thinks they want.
WWDC needs to be stellar for iPad OS (imagine macOS support and proper windows etc) in order for the iPad Pro hardware to be as successful as it deserves.
laurent@stroughtonsmith
Who says "iPads would be great computers if they were faster". They are fixing a problem the device doesn't have. It's a software problem.
Who says "iPads would be great computers if they were faster". They are fixing a problem the device doesn't have. It's a software problem.
4everpushingaboulder@stroughtonsmith boosted solely for the correct pluralization!
caseyneiba 🦣@stroughtonsmith Maybe because every YouTuber and Apple reviewer out there screams that their is a problem with iPad, never tell what the problem really is and gets pissed at Apple when they upgrade the iPad because "what they upgraded was not the problem".
Special mention for those who applaud the landscape camera (which brings hardware incompatibility with Apple Pencil 2nd Gen) and get mad at Apple for not supporting 2nd Gen Pencil on the new iPad...
Special mention for those who applaud the landscape camera (which brings hardware incompatibility with Apple Pencil 2nd Gen) and get mad at Apple for not supporting 2nd Gen Pencil on the new iPad...
@caseyneiba it's a looong list
@stroughtonsmith I spend maybe 50% of my (personal) computer usage on my iPad Mini 5th Gen (dreaming of a Mini Pro with Face ID and now Apple Pencil Pro support), 30% on my iPhone 12 Mini (communications/endless scrolling) and 20% on my MacBook Pro 14" M3 Max (Vms, lab, python etc...). I'd like Mac to be more like iPad, more "instant", but there is no feature from Mac that I miss on iPad (except unlock with Apple Watch 🤣). What am I missing ?
Highlander@stroughtonsmith if it could run MacOS … it would be my next laptop.
Owen 🇦🇺@stroughtonsmith It doesn’t matter how much power or hardware upgrades Apple throws at the iPad platform. The operating system is fundamentally broken (especially for iPad Pro) and needs to be completely redesigned.
Given Apple’s track record of lacklustre iPadOS advancements year on year, I don’t expect any groundbreaking announcements at WWDC that will fix the fundamental flaws in the iPad’s operating system.
Adding AI functionality to iPadOS won’t provide any solutions to that either!