Thies MarsenWie immer sehr empfehlenswert: Erica Zingers Kolumne auf @tazgetroete - diesmal über die antisemitischen Demonstrationen an der Columbia University. Tröstet ein bisserl hinweg, über das, was man in der taz sonst zum Thema manchmal lesen muss…
jonburrPalestinians are Semitic People.
Nothing says #antisemitism like the murder of 35000 Semitic Civilians in #Gaza
The students who are demonstrating in the USA aren't anti-Semitic, they are PRO-semitic and anti-Genocide.
The zionist rightwing Israeli government is Anti-semitic and PRO-Genocide
Its not that fucking difficult to understand.
#Gazagenocide
Mass graves in Gaza show victims’ hands were tied, says UN rights office
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148876
Mass graves in Gaza show victims’ hands were tied, says UN rights office
Disturbing reports continue to emerge about mass graves in Gaza in which Palestinian victims were reportedly found stripped naked with their hands tied, prompting renewed concerns about possible war crimes amid ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the UN human rights office, OHCHR, said on Tuesday.
Ups. Sorry. I have to correct myself. To shout out "Go back to Poland!", "You have no culture; all you do is colonize!", "Al-Qassam [Brigades], make us proud, take out another soldier!" Or: "We say justice - you say how? Burn down Tel Aviv. Come on, Hamas, we love you. We also support your rockets“ is of course not antisemitism. just hatred of Jews . Thanks for your objection
Are you proud to support the genocide of Gaza?
I'm very proud that I speak out against it.
@jonburr @tazgetroete
To speak out against antisemitism is supporting genocide?
And to celebrate a terror organization that openly promotes genocide against Jews (and by the way: the killing of queers, feminists, leftists and everything that is progressiv) is something to be proud of?
Interesting.
To speak out against antisemitism is supporting genocide?
And to celebrate a terror organization that openly promotes genocide against Jews (and by the way: the killing of queers, feminists, leftists and everything that is progressiv) is something to be proud of?
Interesting.
You're an idiot.
There is nothing like a sophisticated exchange of arguments
PhoenixSerenity@[email protected] @jonburr @tazgetroete You're defending & supporting a terrorist, openly genocidal state. It is YOU, who needs to get their head checked - not most of us, who have humanity in our hearts & souls. You are a bad sealioner. Try to be less obvious, on future sealioning attempts. I'm not gonna treat you with kid gloves like some others are here. You're an adult. I deal with adults, with adult gloves.
Grow the fuxk up, beyond your hasbara programming, if you want to evolve as a human.
ex or current IDF unwelcome@jonburr @thiesmarsen @tazgetroete The PM of Israel happens to belong to a particular religion. It is him that we are anti. If he were Christian, Muslim, agnostic etc we'd still hate him
@JohnLoader6 @jonburr @tazgetroete
I wouldn’t use the word hate, but of course Netanyahu is one of the main problems for Israel and the whole region.
But why do you want to close all Israeli embassies? Are you against Israel or against the actual far right Israeli government?
And of course there are several other problems in the region, to get rid of: the biggest one starts with h and ends with amas…
And there is this other problem starts with I and ends with ran
@thiesmarsen @jonburr @tazgetroete I want a message sent. Israelis are left in ignorance of what most of the world thinks about what they are doing. There a tiny amount of sanctions but pin pricks. I'd like El Al to be treated like Aeroflot and banned. But a loud message needs to be sent
@JohnLoader6 @jonburr @tazgetroete
And how about closing all Iranian embassies? Or all from Katar?
And I am sure that Israelis recognize what’s going on in the rest of the world - and they recognize the absolute lack of empathy for all the murdered, raped, tortured, kidnapped Israeli men, women and children. And also the refusal within those who call themselves progressive to take note of the responsibility of Hamas and other Palestinian groups for the actual situation.
Sad but true.
@thiesmarsen @JohnLoader6 @tazgetroete
Israelis need to understand, they have used up their "international credit of sympathy and goodwill" after 6 months of committing genocide and well-documented warcrimes in Gaza, and also, to a lesser degree, in the West Bank.
Genocide is NOT a good look.
#Gazagenocide #Gaza #Palestine
#IsraelTerroristState
Every 10 minutes a child (in Gaza) is killed or wounded. They are protected under the laws of war
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148876
Mass graves in Gaza show victims’ hands were tied, says UN rights office
Disturbing reports continue to emerge about mass graves in Gaza in which Palestinian victims were reportedly found stripped naked with their hands tied, prompting renewed concerns about possible war crimes amid ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the UN human rights office, OHCHR, said on Tuesday.
Peter Link Has Moved(See link above - "Mass graves in Gaza show victims hands were tied")
Thanks for posting this!
#news #press @palestine @israel
⚡️ axeshun ⚡️ 
@plink @jonburr @palestine @israel note how this revelation is now overshadow in msm by the 'antisemitic' campus protests.
Orava@thiesmarsen @JohnLoader6 @jonburr @tazgetroete
What I really wish I could explain to people is that while, yes, Hamas, Iran, etc. are super bad and need to be opposed, stopped, neutralized, whatever, what Israel is doing in Gaza will achieve none of these things.
Al Quaeda committed 9/11. In response and with the stated goal of defeating Al Quaeda and their allies the US invaded Afghanistan an Iraq. 20 years later we now have ISIS massacring 100+ people in a single attack and (cont)
@thiesmarsen @JohnLoader6 @jonburr @tazgetroete
the Taliban being in charge of Afghanistan (again).
Iran had faced massive protests lately, which they had to escalate their repressions to quell, increasing the likelihood of more protests in the future. Now they can hope to quell any domestic calls due change through a violent conflict with an external enemy (often quite effective).
Which leaves us with what? A whole lot of suffering in Gaza and probably NOTHING to show for it at the end :-/
@JohnLoader6 @thiesmarsen @tazgetroete
yes, exactly.
I also despise putin for his warcrimes against Ukrainians.
Anonax@JohnLoader6 @jonburr @thiesmarsen @tazgetroete If he weren't Jewish, you (collectively, not singling you out) wouldn't even notice. Do you know or care about the war crimes in Sudan? Ethiopia? Do you think we should close the Sudanese and Ethiopian embassies? Did you know that only a few weeks back, Pakistan and Iran were firing missiles at each other?
And don't give me the "we have Jews in our ranks" schtick, so did Hitler.
@anonax @JohnLoader6 @thiesmarsen @tazgetroete
The protest movement isn't against Jews, its against Genocide, and about the fact that the USA and to a lesser degree, the UK and Germany are supplying weapons that are being in that particular Genocide.
But you can keep telling yourself it's against Jews if it makes you feel better.
@jonburr @anonax @thiesmarsen @tazgetroete There's not much we can do to influence Somalia and Ethiopia but we can influence on Gaza. Just because the people who are ordering the genocide are Jewish doesn't mean Judaism is hated - I dislike all religions. Think about religion . jews are killing Muslims with arms supplied by Christians. The only God is Mars, the God of war
Good comment in German Newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung (sz.de): „The pro-Palestinian protests at American universities raise many questions, including these: What is actually taught there? How can it be that these universities produce a student body that looks so undifferentiated at one of the most complicated conflicts of the present?“
#gaza #israel #hamas #columbia #freegazafromhamas
@jonburr @anonax @JohnLoader6
„If the demonstrators had the capabilities of analysis and weighing, they would see that Hamas also took such incredible violence in its attack on Israel in order to provoke the toughest possible reaction. In particular, the rapes, the mutilations and the display of the victims served the goal of achieving maximum provocation and making it almost impossible for Israel, deeply hurt in the soul, to find a moderate answer.“
#gaza #israel #hamas
„If the demonstrators had the capabilities of analysis and weighing, they would see that Hamas also took such incredible violence in its attack on Israel in order to provoke the toughest possible reaction. In particular, the rapes, the mutilations and the display of the victims served the goal of achieving maximum provocation and making it almost impossible for Israel, deeply hurt in the soul, to find a moderate answer.“
#gaza #israel #hamas
That article is absolute bullshit, it is just zionist playing the victim while they ethnically cleanse #Gaza
Zionsist and pro-netanyahu fascists use "antisemitism" as a weapon to silence their critics, while they carry out genocide of Semitic people. #Gazagenocide
As of 22 April, more than 34,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, including 14,685 children and 9,670 women, Another 77,084 have been injured, and over 7,000 missing
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/04/1148876
Mass graves in Gaza show victims’ hands were tied, says UN rights office
Disturbing reports continue to emerge about mass graves in Gaza in which Palestinian victims were reportedly found stripped naked with their hands tied, prompting renewed concerns about possible war crimes amid ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the UN human rights office, OHCHR, said on Tuesday.
piglet@thiesmarsen @tazgetroete
"Dies sind Sätze, die propalästinensische Studierende und andere Teilnehmende in den vergangenen Tagen rund um das Protestcamp an der Columbia University in New York laut Berichten von sich gegeben haben."
Ich will die Einigkeit hier ungern stören. Aber ich verfolge diese Berichte sehr intensiv. Die Formulierung "rund um das Protestcamp an der Columbia University" ist fahrlässig, denn dabei werden Ereignisse subsumiert, die ausserhalb der Uni stattgefunden haben.
Beleg: "Demonstrations just outside Columbia’s gates, which are currently closed to the public, took an especially dark tone over the weekend, when protesters who did not appear to be connected to the university were accused of celebrating Hamas and targeting Jewish students."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/22/us/columbia-university-protests.html
Fazit: es gab diese antisemitischen Vorkomnisse, aber sie haben mit den Campus-Protesten nichts zu tun.
@thiesmarsen @tazgetroete
Mindestens einige der Taz erwähnten Ereignisse fanden gemäss US-Presse definitiv ausserhalb statt. Auch die #TAZ sollte um journalistische Sorgfalt bemüht sein.
'Columbia cannot control what happens off its property, and the neighborhood around its campus has drawn significant attention in the aftermath of the arrests. ...
“Go back to Poland!” one masked protester who clutched a Palestinian flag shouted outside the Columbia campus gates...'
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/22/us/columbia-university-protests.html