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🇺🇦🇪🇺 C. Weickhmann🤣 The Oracle vibe is really off-putting, though...
Marcus Müller@cweickhmann @bagder I find it cooperates quite well with the "world domination" aspirations 👍
MKJ
Yaksh Bariya@bagder Im sure you are underestimating the numbers by a huge margin
Lukas@bagder Is this the announcement that curl has been bought by Oracle? 😄
Stefan Eissing@bagder that memory safe runtime did not age so well...😌
CgX 
@bagder That's an awful monopolistic situation ! 🤣 ❤️
Johannes 
@bagder you better not sell curl to oracle, mister 
NewkWord on the street is curl Pro will soon be available as a subscription.
Wilfried Klaebe
BenBE
alex
*sigh*Ber nard@bagder That's a lot less scary than the original!
Brad Martin
Billy O'Neal@bagder I feel like even comparing with curl gives too much credit to Oracle
Peter Bindels@bagder Only 8 billion? I must have at least 20.
mirabilos
Erik Ableson@bagder Hey, how about a little love for wget?
Cegorach
uwu1ba@bagder sounds more plausible than Java
Max 
Martin Hamilton
daniel_ferradal_marquez@bagder even though it could be written in just a weekend 😜
Demiurg@bagder Running on 8 billion devices on 2 planets 🥹 Congratulations... that is so crazy!
@bagder way less threatening!
ml@bagder
Had same idea after reading "curl on 100 operating systems".
3 billion, 8 billion, to the moon and beyond 🚀
ml (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/11/14/curl-on-100-operating-systems/
words_number@bagder That screenshot is from a time when windows was actually a half-decent OS. Long gone.
@words_number the listed products in the window also kind of hints of a time long gone...
So, if the machines can not auto-update to a newer curl that supports new cipher-suites, and the platform is 32-bit windows, what do you think will happen?
@SpaceLifeForm they stick to the old version?
It probably will not be a problem in practice because the machines will die at some point and have to replaced with more modern kit and software. Also, there is a lot of financial incentive to not replace if they are still working.
The scenario is that a server upgrades to use a new cipher-suite but the curl does not understand it. In theory, the server should allow a cipher-suite downgrade but there is no guarantee they will.
A vendor could force new sales.
"Sorry, but your machine is too old to patch, you need to replace. See our sales brochure"
There must be a lot of folk that are not in position to upgrade their linux kit too.
@SpaceLifeForm lots of devices and services die all the time when they cannot be updated but the services they need to connect to, upgrade and require a more modern protocol, cipher or handshake. It's not new and it's not special for curl. Even things that actually *can* be upgraded will be abandoned because it is not financially beneficial. For example mobile phones.
I was thinking of kiosks that someone (a corp) pays for.
Mobile, basically, the user is the product and they are the ones that pay.
Jima 
@bagder Hey Daniel! This reminds me of a photo I took in my car on Monday. (Pardon the dust.)
ghorwood↙↙↙@jima do you mind telling me what car model this is?
gyptazy@[email protected] pretty impressive! :)
Latt Hsiang@bagder I am proud curl user. Minecraft runs on curl!