578: Weird Can Be Beautiful
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Accidental Tech Podcast: 578: Weird Can Be Beautiful

Three nerds discussing tech, Apple, programming, and loosely related matters.

@atpfm Can't wait for Marco's astute sports analysis.
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For a second I thought you guys brought on Gruber as a guest.
@atpfm it’s a great special, but also a shame you didn’t go for a huge troll of John describing how he manages the various windowpanes in his house
@atpfm have you three been kidnapped? This is definitely the episode description you would write to let us know you were.
@atpfm Ok, Overtime got me to finally join
@atpfm @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoarment just listening to your conversation about PCs being able to play old games and I thought you’d like this playlist where Funhaus played tonnes of old PC demo discs some of which were literally 25 years old and may not have even been complete or released and they were able to play them https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIc1971kgPBJNmKcUBivnqFTtk8F6IDY&si=H1S-G8GZJ5wIzsKU
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@atpfm @siracusa The Chrome thing… I get it. I still use Chrome if I need the dev tools. There's just so much muscle memory there. The tools in Safari and Firefox are good too, I just can't remember how to use them.
@sayrer @atpfm @siracusa Safari tools are terrible, not just different. Less powerful, harder to find, buggier, a complete mess
@tambourineman @atpfm @siracusa willing to believe you, but I really don't use them, so I'm uninformed. if some web thing is broken, I open Chrome, even though I don't use it for most things
@atpfm my wife is due for a new car in about 2 years and we will be placing an order for the R3X.
@atpfm Overtime is a great idea!
@atpfm Here’s an #AskATP to follow up this episode. If Apple banned your dev account and getting it back was not an option, what would your new income source be?
@atpfm John’s windows made me come back @caseyliss @marcoarment , so that I can here you giving him a fun hard time (just guessing , I have not yet listened). FYI 7 Euros in Portugal is more like 21 USD for a US salary.
@atpfm would love to hear y’all talk about the genocide happening in Palestine right now. I know you guys care about innocent people and care about using your platform to spread the word about important things. ceasefiretoday.com is a great website for those who feel helpless as their government funds these atrocities. Thanks guys, big fan.
@atpfm Overtime for members. This is genius. Congratulations gentlemen.

@atpfm I've not had any reason to side load things for a few years now but on Android the 15 step process is more like three.

As both I and the phone platforms have matured, my interest and the need to side load has decreased.

Step 1 - go to settings and search for install unknown apps

Step 2 - allow chrome (or whatever you're using to open the apk) to install apps

Step 3 - download the apk you want from the web.

Interesting fact - the play store will update a side loaded app in place.

@atpfm Love the overtime! Great to see the perks of being a member expanding.
One thing: is it too much hassle to add a chapter or at least a timestamp for the overtime? Because I still want to listen live and I want to pick up where I left off (I do understand that I can also just lift my lazy fingers and do it manually but it takes a few times to get it right. And yes the Ad-free feed has the chapter but it’s not unedited
@zhhz The bootleg is released immediately, with no editing. That means no chapter markers, too. The price of speed…
@siracusa I do understand that…but allegedly you have to enter the title to the CMS, and if one can take a note on the timestamp when the broadcast was cut off, and just attach the timestamp to the show notes, as the only thing in the show notes, clients like Overcast would pick it up as a timestamp. But I will understand that it looks like a slippery slop for you…
@atpfm not sure how serious John was about comparing street widths but it’s pretty easy to do with the measurement tool in Google Maps. See here an example of a street in Richmond (London, yes the Ted Lasso one). 10 meters (~32 feet) across, which is pretty narrow here but not uncommon.
@atpfm Apple expecting revenue from app services they do nothing but host is terrible hey?
Oh wait…one third of the hosts income is generated from doing EXACTly this. Weird…
@atpfm why is the „ending theme“ chapter missing? 😳 the song woke me up 😓
was this a bug or a new „feature“ @marcoarment ?

@atpfm @siracusa I’m not sure how well the Chrome team holds to this (although I seem to remember that they were switching to Issue Tracker, aka Buganizer, same as the rest of Google), but normally P1 is not the highest priority a bug can be assigned, P0 is. The way it was described to me when I joined Google in 2011 was that P0 meant the world was on fire, down to P4 meaning your shoes are on fire.

P1 does become important because many teams have a policy that VPs start seeing the P0s and P1s on their metrics, so you deal with it quickly or triage to see if it can be lowered. That might have been the priority dance you saw; it was still high priority, but not something anyone wanted a VP contacting you about