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joey castillono matter what safeguards you try to build to help internet users, the modern web is enough of a cesspool that some asshole is going to come up with something like this.
Gentarkin@joeycastillo That's really clever in a scummy sort of way.
zaire the bored genderfuck@joeycastillo sketchy download sites have been doing this for ages. if you accept they'll send you ads for more sketchy or even nsfw stuff
Eckes 
@joeycastillo seems to be a valid negative captcha :) only humans can be tricked :)
Michal Bryxí 🌱@eckes @joeycastillo "Negative captcha'" 😅👏
Ian Douglas Scott@eckes @joeycastillo Not with LLMs. No we have the technology for computers to also be tricked by phishing scams!
/Бин/Баш@joeycastillo Well.. I'd close the tab instantly and ad the website to my blacklist in uBlacklist in Firefox :)
Skyr@joeycastillo sql injection, but for humans
StarkRG@joeycastillo It should really include the address of the website not whatever bullshit they claim to be.
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C.L. Who@joeycastillo Push notifications should be removed from browsers. They are never used in a legitimate way and people have been able follow things they are interested in long before them.
They are just an advertising tool, nothing more.
They are just an advertising tool, nothing more.
VarietyI strongly disagree: Because of Web Push notifications I could remove several Apps from my phone. In the webbrowser I'm the one in control as opposed to some standalone app.
Patrick $8 
@Variety take a look at the list of service workers installed in your browser and tell me you're in control
Jamie McCarthy@jamiemccarthy New record for most nonsensical analogy. I don't even understand your position.
@Variety @joeycastillo I see your point but I still see push notifications as bad. They are so often used for intrusive ads, often for scams.
I once had to help a coworker who was getting ads for porn on her phone, ads from push notifications.
Jamie Gaskins@clwho @Variety @joeycastillo Push notifications used to be good. In theory, they still can be, but far too many aren't.
I really like this thread from @Tedspence on it.
Ted Spence (@[email protected])
Let’s talk about a problem - software cannot be trusted anymore. In the past, if I allowed an app to send me notifications, I’d get alerted for things I wanted to hear about. Now every app uses spurious notifications as a way to artificially boost their daily active user count. I am one by one having to shut off notifications on apps that used to be reliable products. I’ve disabled notifications on linkedin because it keeps sending me ads and random unnecessary alerts.
@clwho @Variety @joeycastillo @Tedspence
One of the other problems is that apps where push notifications *are* useful also abuse that by still sending you spam notifications.
For example, I want to know when my food arrives but I don't want the other 6 push notifications that Doordash sends me every time I order, or the daily marketing spam notifications.
Ted Spence@jamie @clwho @Variety @joeycastillo sooner or later someone at Apple will win an entire news cycle by allowing iOS users to report inappropriate notifications, and labeling apps on the App Store for sending spammy notifications
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John-Mark Gurney@clwho
I just setup a personal notification system for my server to my phone with it. And it's very easy to setup and use. So it is used for legitimate purposes.
@joeycastillo
I just setup a personal notification system for my server to my phone with it. And it's very easy to setup and use. So it is used for legitimate purposes.
@joeycastillo
Sir David Nielsen@joeycastillo @lisamelton at this point, I would prefer it if the modern web simply burned to the ground. It cannot be salvaged, there is no redeeming it nor the people who steer it.
gh0sti 
@joeycastillo this is why adblockers exist.
Ricky Mondello@joeycastillo For anyone curious, this issue is resolved in the latest versions of macOS and Safari. Websites can no longer supply their own string and icon in this dialog.
@rmondello Well what do you know, I'm one Sonoma release behind!
Also, weird ask, but if you have any way of flagging something at Apple, could you flag feedback ID FB13528351? Sonoma's filesystem changes broke @adafruit's CircuitPython, and I'm freaking out because I'm teaching a class with CircuitPython devices next semester. Drives me crazy that it's going to "just work" for students with PC's, but Macs on Sonoma are going to have a hellacious time… https://github.com/adafruit/circuitpython/issues/8449#issuecomment-1884176668
OSError: [Errno 5] Input/output: macOS Sonoma is delaying writes on small filesystems · Issue #8449 · adafruit/circuitpython
CircuitPython version Adafruit CircuitPython 8.2.6 on 2023-09-12; Adafruit CircuitPlayground Express with samd21g18 Code/REPL # Write your code here :-) print("Hello World!") Behavior Code stopped ...
Wladimir Palant@joeycastillo That’s the exact reason why the beforeunload event handler can no longer display a custom message to you. The message is ignored and all you see is generic text.
That change was implemented in 2016. What preceded it was a cat and mouse game with browsers attempting to stop such tricks – until they finally concluded that the ability to display a website-defined message just wasn’t worth it.
LinkeThat’s so gross. I wouldn’t fall for it, but so many people would.
Andre@joeycastillo Whoever came up with the idea of building notifications into browsers needs to have a Clockwork Orange session of watching notification beg messages for a week or two.
Lynnesbian 
@joeycastillo yup, my dad fell for one of these
Derek 🌈@joeycastillo @mjgardner I’m at the point where I get most of my information via Wikipedia, fediverse and a select few other sites due to all the crap that is loaded that is not necessary on the website.
Mark Gardner@mayor @joeycastillo Don’t discount the utility of a well-populated #RSS reader. And remember #Mastodon, #Akkoma, #MicroBlog, and many other #fediverse type of accounts also have RSS feeds.
This stuff needs to converge. @Flipboard is doing interesting, albeit centralized, work toward that.
Ryan Morey@joeycastillo honestly, pretty clever
LisPi@joeycastillo @deepbluev7 I think just presenting the full URI with a distinctive font that doesn't blend into the rest would be a net improvement all the same.
cristei@joeycastillo why do endlines work there?
Lunar 🛸 ♾@joeycastillo Some assholes already have. I had to block web browser notifications across the board at my workplace because of the amount of panicked calls I got about McAfee. (A product we don't even use, I might add)
hugovangalen 🤖 🕹️ 😼@joeycastillo This whole popup dialog was a bad idea from day one. This should have just been an unobstrusive button next to the address bar with a megaphone (or any other clear indication that it is about Notification), that someone just needed to explicitely click to approve.
"Convenience" is the root of all evil.
Thiago Figueiró
Estarriol, Terrorist Dragon@joeycastillo we need you to confirm you are not a robot before we let you only talk to us through our pet robot.
See Royal Mail website, Amazon, etc....
Merlin Schumacher@joeycastillo I guess this is a case where form does follow function.
awe ⚧@joeycastillo you NEED click allow.
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Radu Ursache@joeycastillo grammar aside, that’s pretty smart
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_Syhmac 
@joeycastillo I hate this type of crap. The amount of times my mom or granny felt for that is way too big.