Juno
nixCraft π§Europe: We are banning egress fees.
Google: π₯Έ
Google: π₯Έ
This is something a tiny cloud provider CEO probably do to avoid EU rules. But Google is so cheeky π it is unbelievable
popbones@nixCraft Does this mean the EU rules only applies to English?
Max Lee 
@popbones
No, all EU legislation is written in all official languages of its member states (+ English) and all official announcements need to be at least in English, French and German iirc.
(Beyond that that's not how laws work anyways. A judge decides if it matches the meaning of the law, not the exact wording. Laws aren't programming languages after all.)
No, all EU legislation is written in all official languages of its member states (+ English) and all official announcements need to be at least in English, French and German iirc.
(Beyond that that's not how laws work anyways. A judge decides if it matches the meaning of the law, not the exact wording. Laws aren't programming languages after all.)
Dima Pasechnik πΊπ¦ π³π±@the_moep @popbones Googl somehow thinks that US holy-constitution-worshipping literalist law works well in EU. Good luck to them. Even though, if the US right to own and carry around AR-15 stems from "well-armed militia" thing in the holy text...
By the way, English is an official language in the Republic of Ireland, thus automatically an EU language.
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jon r@nixCraft Is that all it takes to circumvent regulation?
feistel 
@nixCraft A German dude told me they changed the name of credit card transaction fees in EU too. I thought that couldn't be right, but what do I know?
Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirs@nixCraft You're going to raise this with the relevant authorities, ja?
Michael@nixCraft So if my employer would rephrase my "salary" into "money in" for me, I can avoid paying taxes on my salary cause I have none?
the gripe ibis
Georg Ramer@nixCraft Did Google hire a Sovereign Citizen lawyer? What's next? Is Goog going to "not consent" to data privacy laws and tax law. Is it going to convert its company cars to company "conveyances"?
apophis@georgramer @nixCraft yeah this seems like less an actual attempt at any sort of avoidance and more deliberately obviously not trying as a particularly passive-aggressive way to call the EU's bluff
The Shinxposter@nixCraft is this for real?! wow
LinuxUserGD 
Greg@HugeGameArtGD @zym @nixCraft And for anyone doubting the veracity of the twitter account, quote-tweeted by Cloudflare's CEO: https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1724904482155409815
MJ Ray@nixCraft but hey, it's still formally known as "egress". I suspect they meant to write "formerly" but the lawyers who speak good English won't touch this.
grob (teeth era) πΊπ¦π³οΈβππ³οΈββ§οΈ@nixCraft if the legislation is any good, this should not work
Lisra The Grey Cat (They/Them)@nixCraft good luck with that..
Freja (at revision)@nixCraft weird thing is that the eu data act doesn't care what you call the fee, they're banned regardless. So I don't see what google is trying to accomplish
Voron@nixCraft Itβs interesting that billionaire controlled media has been in a constant freak out about government oppression and big brother for like 100 years now, when ELECTED government was invented to reign in the power of unelected private wealth & power. The danger is really βbig techbroβ where the people have no say
#fgoogle
Canβt elect a tech bro or throw a musk out of office etc
#fgoogle
Canβt elect a tech bro or throw a musk out of office etc
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J. R. DePriest 
:EA DATA. SF:I am sure this will work just fine and not be challenged in court for sheer stupidity and toddler-like logic.
@jrdepriest @nixCraft they even gave everyone with a google cloud account a nice piece of evidence to show in court so they can't assume innocence. how generous of them.
Krutonium://@nixCraft Oh hey! That's my name!
llewelly@nixCraft
I thought ingress was renamed to pokemon go??? technologies is so confusing!
I thought ingress was renamed to pokemon go??? technologies is so confusing!
gjm@nixCraft So far as I can tell, the Data Act (which I _think_ is the relevant EU thing?) doesn't use the term "egress fees" at all. I don't think it's credible that anyone at Google believes that renaming "egress" to "data transfer out" will change anything for them legally.
So I think it's either (1, cynical hypothesis) they worry that their customers may have heard that there's a bad thing called "egress fees" and they want to use terminology that doesn't bring that to mind; or (2, less cynical hypothesis) they've realised, perhaps prompted by the EU business, that "egress" is a kinda stupid and unclear name, and are adopting something whose meaning is clearer.
Marius Bogdan Ursan 
@nixCraft let the games begin
Victor Villas@nixCraft So many people on this thread thinking that this rename is a plausible mechanism to circumvent the law.
Do tech workers generally think so little of the judiciary system? lol
basisbit π¦πͺπΊπΊπ¦ π KnSt@nixCraft Europe is not banning egress fees. Instead a couple of politicians are pushing for making egress fees mandatory.
Sam Weston@nixCraft I know this is not a serious post but do you have any solid info on the EU law. Has it been passed? I desperately want AWS to stop ripping my company off (at least in this aspect). π
Neil Bartlett π¬π§ πͺπΊ πΊπ¦@nixCraft This is clearly just a marketing exercise rather than any serious attempt to avoid the regulation. Judges are not that stupid, and neither are Google's lawyers.
@nixCraft Potentially Google simply catering the the least educated denominator.
Jima 
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