Jeff GeerlingThe Raspberry Pi 5 is 2.5x faster than the Pi 4 (sometimes more!), and I have the FULL rundown — let me walk you through it in this thread. #RaspberryPi #Pi5
For starters, check out my video on the #RaspberryPi 5, it goes through _everything_ in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBtOEmUqASQ #Pi5
Raspberry Pi 5: EVERYTHING you need to know
The Pi 5 is at least 2x faster than the Pi 4 in every meaningful way: WiFi, microSD, USB bandwidth, CPU, GPU... though it still sticks with 1 Gbps Ethernet (but with PTP now!)
The board includes the first custom silicon to hit an official Raspberry Pi SBC, the RP1 chip, which is a 'southbridge' between the BCM2712 and the rest of the IO. It has many tricks up its sleeve—expect to hear more about them in the coming months!
There are also new battery, fan, and UART connectors, as well as a new power button, exposing some very handy quality of life improvements. This is the first Pi that's really comfortable being your tiny PC.
There's also a new Active Cooler and case with improved airflow and a much quieter PWM fan. These are both huge upgrades over what came before, and allow the BCM2712 to run forever without throttling.
I tested a TON of stuff on these boards, most especially the new PCI Express connector on the #RaspberryPi 5—check out my #Pi5 blog post for more on that! https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/testing-pcie-on-raspberry-pi-5
Wim Leers@geerlingguy That’s looking *very* thorough, with one exception: energy efficiency/power consumption are not covered 🤓😅
(That’s the first thing I want to know for 24/7 candidate devices.)
@wimleers I do have a bit in the video, I didn't go in depth in the blog post (lack of time, ugh!). It's 1.8W idle with the official PSU. Sometimes more if you use a 3A PSU instead, which is counterintuitive... but what I measured.
Jukka Palko@geerlingguy I'm a bit curious how it compares to the really soon coming Turing RK-1. Any chance you have any to compare?
@jpalko I hope to... ordered RK1 to test.
Aman Kumar Sah@geerlingguy wating for video how the GPU performs this time as compare to Raspberry PI4 . I have seen the real hardwork to make GPU run on the PI😍
rustyIt will be interesting to see if they are available to the every day end user, or if they are just going to be bought in lots to be embedded in some company's kiosk.
If my local MicroCenter starts actually having stock on hand, rather than a shipment of 20, and being gone within 30 min of hitting the shelf, as is currently happening on the rare situation where they get any 3B+, 4,. The Zero's and 400's tend to hang around for a couple of hours. Haven't seen a Zero_v2 since 2020.
@geerlingguy It may be simpler to say that I hope that general walk up and pick one up off the shelf any day the store is open would be nice if it happened before 2025. And a Pi Zero v3 would be a nice option if they ever get around to working out what should be there. Both DSI video, and camera interfaces would be appreciated.
Synapse42@geerlingguy will you be covering this in a video as well?
Raspberry Pi 5: EVERYTHING you need to know
Chris Bensen@geerlingguy they pretty much included everything I've been asking for. This may be the perfect Pi!
: j@fabrica:~/src; 
@geerlingguy I’m unreasonably excited for the UART connector. I should be excited about PCIe! But no, giddy about an easy serial connection.
@josephholsten lol "how do you tell a dev from a typical user"
"show them a dedicated UART port and see how they react"
@geerlingguy Well, I do work with Ampere Altra servers at my day job. Pretty soon I’ll even be managing the projects to support next gen processors like Ampere Siryn, etc.
So I’m wondering things like what level of SystemReady the rpi5 supports.
@josephholsten I asked about this in May—they aren't (yet) interested in pursuing SR support. I have expressed my interest in them getting there, but it's not a market demand from the majority of customers at this time.
It'd be so cool to have SR SBC though!
I’m Gary King!@geerlingguy looking good!
Marcin Juszkiewicz 🙃@geerlingguy and still no usb pins for hats.
Those usb-to-usb dongles will still be in use.
@hrw Wish they'd grabbed some GPIO pins and put a standard USB 2.0 header on there at least, ah well.
Or maybe a future revision with more FPC PCIe connections delivering USB 3.
Samir 
@geerlingguy Does this mean we'll have to buy new cases and stuff? I hope the m.2 SSD cases don't take a year to release.
@shadez For some yes; I know a few case manufacturers are already working on a revision (I would love to see Flirc make a passive heatsink case!)
Linh Pham@geerlingguy Dedicated 5 Gbps per USB 3 port is going to be a nice jump and would allow for both a faster NIC and a USB drive for VMs when ESX on ARM Fling is available for the Pi 5. Plus, the first-party active cooling is really nice to see and hear that it's not an annoying sounding fan.
@geerlingguy Big week indeed!
Radu Ursache@geerlingguy great cover up! quick (dumb?) question: will I be able to just pop a raspberry pi 4 sd card into the new 5 gen and get everything working as soon as it boots? a drop-in replacement basically?
@radu Yes...ish. As long as you keep it updated—Pi 5 requires Bookworm (version 12) and has to have the right dtb file in /boot for the Pi 5 to boot properly.
I still recommend re-flashing though :)
@geerlingguy so i should update the current Pis, fresh install raspberry os on the pi 5, copy its /boot folder into the pi4 sd cards and i’m up and running? 😬
@radu It _should_ be that simple, but you'll have to upgrade from Bullseye to Bookworm on the Pi 4, and that could cause its own issues...
@geerlingguy fair point. i guess i’ll see when i get there, thanks!
Andreas Wachter 
@buddyspencer Oh yes you do...
@geerlingguy you are correct 😅
Bornach@geerlingguy
Christopher Barnatt [ExplainingComputers] also has posted his video on #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/9hYfQ7bRgZg
Christopher Barnatt [ExplainingComputers] also has posted his video on #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/9hYfQ7bRgZg
@bornach Just watched it!
@geerlingguy
@kevsmac
Jeff Geerling and Kevin McAleer talk about the surprise release of the #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/NiDBiUGvZus
@kevsmac
Jeff Geerling and Kevin McAleer talk about the surprise release of the #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/NiDBiUGvZus
Jeff Geerling on the Raspberry Pi 5
@kevsmac
Kevin McAleer also had a chat with Chris Barnatt [ExplainingComputers] on the #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/ysNTEy1lUKo
Kevin McAleer also had a chat with Chris Barnatt [ExplainingComputers] on the #RaspberryPi5
https://youtu.be/ysNTEy1lUKo
Chris Barnatt on the new Raspberry Pi 5
Caleb Woodbine 🎺🐛@geerlingguy thank you for sharing! Looks like it’ll be a fantastic upgrade. And there goes my wallet!
diegolakatos@geerlingguy great video Jeff!
Manuel 
@geerlingguy Thanks for the rundown. What stands out for me though is the weird choice for a rather wasteful 5V/5A power delivery. Wouldn't it have made more sense to use USB PD with say 12V/2.1A at that point? I guess the 'trading efficiency for cost' compromise also applies here if it is that much more expensive to implement.
@sunred Yes, though I'm guessing that's more to save on BOM/board space for stepdown voltages. Maybe they'll go to 12v for a new revision someday, I'd be happy about that.
Note their PSU provides 12v/2.25A...
Saustrup@geerlingguy Excellent and VERY detailed review! Thanks! 🙂
Arataka@geerlingguy ngl I’m kinda sad about it not having the audio jack
@Arataka Me too :(
lonjil@geerlingguy in this video you say that you have on good authority that a 16GB RPi5 model could be possible one day, but in an interview with Kevin McAleer (sorry I don't have the link or timestamp handy), Eben Upton says that the SoC can't handle more than 8.
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Eben Upton on the new Raspberry Pi 5
ector jones@geerlingguy great video Jeff, many thanks for relief from my usual doom scrolling over worry about Ukraine. Very glad to see you getting one of the first!
T_X@geerlingguy awesome news and thanks for the great summary! I'm very curious if its PCIe might be suitable to turn it into a beefy (multi radio?) WiFi #mesh node for our #Freifunk project. Preferably with #Mediatek (or #Qualcomm) 802.11ax cards on #OpenWrt. The CPU power would be very handy for our encapsulating layer 2 mesh routing protocol #batman_adv and VPNs. And no more of this annoying too low flash/RAM sizes we frequently have with ordinary WiFi routers... #MeshNetwork
Ringo De Smet@geerlingguy will it come in a (backwards compatible) Compute Module form factor?
Fuwo@geerlingguy The Pi 5 sounds great, I do hope that a CM5 is not far behind and that that one, unlike the CM3 -> CM4 situation, allows for a drop in replacement.
@fuwo I hope so too, and I've asked about this a couple times, so far "ask again later" :)
Cyrille Cailac@geerlingguy The 5A/5V power supply requirement is honestly not reasonable. The raspberry pi 4 would flash the low power icon quite often already, even with fairly high-end GaN power supplies. Now it's just impossible to power the pi 5 with any power supply one might already own, which negates the price advantage entirely. I think it ought to be mentionned when comparing prices.
@sankao Check out the Pi blog post — when you use a lower power PSU it will limit USB current to 600 mA and still run (you can override this setting if you want).
@geerlingguy Indeed ! I stand corrected, that's very good news then.
Kees N ✅🔻@sankao @geerlingguy
Don't confuse a phone charger (even a high power one) with a power supply, they are very different beasts.
Don't confuse a phone charger (even a high power one) with a power supply, they are very different beasts.
Robert Atkins@geerlingguy But what will it cost?