GhostalmediaIn-N-Out Burger bans employees from wearing masks unless they have a doctor's note
TurboDieselThe company that hides bible verses on its soda cups‽ You don’t say!!
DsurionThat sounds like a colossal waste of money spent on extra ink no one’s going to read.
Their executive team prays before meetings.
Jesus Christ…
yes, that’s the one.
such_lettuce7970From the outside looking in, that seems like the most American thing ever.
Hold my beer…
orphiebabyOh, really? Yyyyep. That explains everything.
Had no idea. Only eaten there twice before, once when no other options were available. It was terrible both times. It is so overhyped. Never wanted to eat there again, but the Bible verses thing adds to my decision. Pretty weird and creepy, honestly.
Flying SquidTechnically it’s not the verse, it’s just something like “Matthew 12:9” Still stupid and pointless. And definitely weird and creepy. It’s on the underside of the packaging where most people won’t look, which makes it weirder.
I’ll say this, back when the founders were around in the 00’s, even with the Bible verses, they intentionally prioritized pay and food quality over growth. Then the kids took over the business. The kids are probably going kill what made that place special because they’re greedy and selfish.
Sounds about right. Who was it? Carnegie? Rockefeller? that said it takes 3 generations to squander wealth.
Oh, I’m sure the current young generations can beat that record.
the kids
NyxmFirst time I’ve seen the interrobang in the wild in a while.
Excellent.
CeruleanRuinDon’t worry, Jesus will save you from the crippling diarrhea you might get because we require workers to come in sick and don’t let them cover their mouths.
And don’t worry, the dracula sneeze has been BANNED. Our employees let their snot spray proudly and free. No wicked vampire posturing at In-N-Out Burger.
Grant_MRIP In N Out
This is what kills the business?
morgan423Most people I know are only wearing masks now if they catch colds and flus and don’twant to spread it when going out and n public.
Which seems to me to be when you’d WANT your food service employee (whom you probably forced to work while sick) to wear one, so that they don’t spread it to the rest of your staff. But I guess I’m not a fast food company, corporate executive, so what do I know?
EeeDawg101Yeah it’s bizarre how they’re acting. As a customer, I’d feel better if the people preparing the food I’m consuming were wearing masks. It’s like they took the total opposite of wanting to appease their customers.
_finger_It’s not bizarre at all, it’s typical attitudes of conservative bull-headed contrarian trolls like always.
Well it is bizarre from gastronomical industry point of view. They probably require wearing hair nets, but a snot on a burger is acceptable.
I guarantee you they wouldn’t require hairnets if they didn’t have to by law. They have to pay for those hairnets.
rustydominoyup. given the choice of COVID-contaminated boogers or a strand of hair, I’ll take the hair any day of the week. but that’s the problem isn’t it? most people only get grossed out by things they can see. It’s a total failure of science education.
Exactly. And this is no different than the way they behaved during the entirety of the lockdown anyway, so I don't know why people are surprised that conservatives are still acting like conservatives have been acting for years.
I guess some of us keep hoping that now that we exist in the future and have objective data, results, facts, etc that we can stipulate truth from lies/propaganda and the right thing.
I know, I know, I’ll see myself out.
The issue is that intelligent folk would prefer masks, but understand that is a lost cause and just have background radiation annoyance.
Whereas, conservatives will lose their god damned mind the moment they see the slightest bit of friction. And possibly go grab the gun from the back of their pickup truck.
TheAndrewBrownTo be fair, if you are soulless and going to make them work when they’re sick anyway, why would you care if they infected the rest of the staff?
If all your employees get sick, who’s labor are you supposed to exploit?
The sick people. Because they make people work even when they’re sick
Bills don’t get sick
I’m sure they’d find a way to screw over the farmers and logistics chain
What about the customers though? Do you really want that traced back to your store? Seems like such a bad idea.
I agree it’s a bad idea, that’s one of the many reasons to not make your workers work sick, but these people aren’t exactly critical thinkers
Makes sense. The challenge is the incubation period for most common colds is so long and variable that it’s really hard to pinpoint the source. Assuming they listen to some science.
Personally as a customer, I’d want them at home sick and getting better than in work at all in that condition.
Same, but that’s not realistic for most individuals in these industries that don’t have sick days, medical benefits, and/or a financial cushion to afford a day(s) lost income.
Wearing a mask to help reduce the spread of bacteria/viruses to your customers/fellow employees seems like the most basic human courtesy we should all want/expect.
These corporate overlords that force their personal politics (on either side) at work need to go.
The vast majority of people here do not wear masks. My frickin mom, who has cancer and a heart condition, has even stopped wearing one when she has an issue and has to go to the MFin emergency room. WTF. I had COVID like 2.5 years ago so probably alpha based on the timing and it was a mild case but it WRECKED me. My only symptom was a really bad headache one day then a mild headache for about a week where it just felt like I needed more coffee, any caffeine addicts out there would know what I mean. But after I had the worst cognitive defects that I could barely finish a sentence, couldn’t remember common words, etc. It was awful. It didn’t get better after vaccination, which I got for the first time about 2 months after the infection. I’m much better now but still not how I was. I don’t want to get this again even after having had it and all available vaccines and I can’t fathom why anyone else who has had it wants it again.bi can’t understand sick and old people who walk around bare faced. I can’t understand healthy people who want to risk it. Why, people?
Had to get some blood work done at the local hospital. Signage everywhere basically saying “You don’t have to wear a mask but you are really stupid if you aren’t wearing one in the waiting room or basically anywhere there are patients”. I was probably the only person in the entire building to have one on.
I am triple or quadruple vaccinated or whatever we are up to at this point. I’ve also managed to catch covid enough times from my (old) work that I am pretty confident I don’t have the long covid genes. So if I am going to be eating and drinking somewhere, I’ll not bother with a mask as I am screwed already. But if I am going to a store or watching a show or whatever? Wearing a mask costs me next to nothing (kn95s are pretty cheap) and means I don’t get convention flu anymore. And, honestly? It is nice if I forgot to shave this morning or whatever.
Yeah I was just thinking I’d rather all food workers wear masks regardless of whether or not they’re carrying something.
I don’t know a single person who wears a mask as a political statement. Even during the pandemic, it wasn’t common to think that way. People who wore them did it out of courtesy for those around them. I don’t imagine that has changed.
People who wear masks are usually wearing them because they don’t want to spread illness. Either they’re ill themselves or they have or know someone with an immunodeficiency that puts them at risk.
So… employees with congestion should just leave their nose bare and potentially get snot on their burgers?
Yes. It is evident that this is more important than customer feelings when they don’t like masks.
So remember:
Personal choice here is not ok Virtue signaling is ok - as long as you are signaling virtues that agree with conservative feelings Feelings over facts
001100 010010In N Out… of the morgue
Also of note is the fact that the memo is addressed to employees in Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Texas, and Utah. That leaves two states where In-N-Out operates — California and Oregon — that are apparently exempt from the mandate.
So does In n Out not care about customer service in California and Oregon? Or do they not care about safety in other states?
Just kidding. I know they don’t care about either. Luckily there’s a restaurant near me that has basically copied their recipes so I don’t have to worry about contributing to some regressive idiots.
Is that somewhere in CA? I would like another option.
Hayes Burger in San Diego
Thanks. It looks nice, but a 2 hours away, I will try when visiting SD.
Not a lawyer, but they’d be sticking their head into the teeth of California’s COVID-19 Prevention Non-Emergency Regulations. This batch took effect in February 2023 and are authorized for the next two years. Don’t know about Oregon.
From the Cal/OSHA Title 8 regulations:
§3205. COVID-19 Prevention. (f) Face coverings. (4) No employer shall prevent any employee from wearing a face covering, including a respirator, when not required by this section, unless it would create a safety hazard.
That's really messed up. It doesn't affect my experience as a customer and frankly I'd anything, it makes things better, because mask also blocks any droplets. So if employee even gets a cold I'm less likely to catch it too.
It should be treated like wearing a hair net.
If employee wants to wear it, it is hard for me do see any downside by letting them.
Just another reason not to go to In-N-Out
Kalkaline You mean besides the shitty burgers and fries?
It depends what you look for in the budger. If you like a big portion, a lot of meat, then In n Out is not for you.
But a lot of people like burger created that way.
I’ll notice that you didn’t say anything about their fries. It’s ok. Their fries are indefensible.
HobovisionThey're edible if you get them "well done". Then they're like rectangular potato chips.
I’ll take your word for it.
It’s not even the best fast food burger in town. I have at least 3 places within walking distance that have better burgers.
GizmoLionRight, be consistent and ban hairnets because employees wearing them reminds customers that their hair falls out. It's all about consistency! Lol
Gloves? Good as gone! How dare you insinuate that hands are unsanitary? Customers have those too, that's just rude!
RottcoddSee... this is the point at which the whole conservative covid reaction, to me, goes from just weird and unsettling to full-on bug-eyed insane. AND hypocritical.
Their whole deal with masks and vaccines is that they should have the right to decide for themselves. I think they make dumbass decisions that cause entirely avoidable harm, but okay - I can grant at least some bare semblace of legitimacy to self-determination. I don't vagree, but at least I can see their underlying logic.
But banning masks? What the actual fuck? What possible difference can it make in their lives that somebody else is wearing a mask? And what happened to their whole self-determination thing? Do they sincerely believe that nobody should be able to tell them whether or not they have to wear a madk and that they should be able to tell other people whether or not they can? How does that even work inside their brains? What possible logic leads to "I don't have to do what you say but you DO have to do what I say"?
Seriously, are they literally insane? I sincerely can't think of any other explanation. It's not just people acting in some way other than my preference, but people acting in a way that's blitheringly irrational, even by their own principles.
I suspect that when future historians write about this era, they're going to call it something like The Idiot Age, because to them it will be marked by people inexplicably doing obviously and painfully stupid and irrational things.