BurningJester
Dean Burnett (that brains guy)"We never saw any of this ADHD or autism stuff when I was young!"
You never saw any photos of the surface of Mars back then either, but I'm pretty sure it was still there the whole time
You know a post is doing well when you start getting replies from people earnestly explaining your own point to you, as if you didn't grasp it
Alan Langford ๐จ๐ฆ๐งค๐งๆ@Garwboy Can I just say how incredibly difficult it is to resist explaining the point of this post to you?
Thanks a lot, Godel.
Michael Gemar@Garwboy @lisamelton Itโs the Death of the Author.
Allen B. Skye@Garwboy So what youโre saying is that as your post gets more popular, people explain the post to you? (/s)
farcaller@Garwboy Mars is *checks notes* a liberal hoax!
/s
Tony Wells
marcorobotics@TonyJWells @farcaller @Garwboy "if on the red planet they're all socialist... who are they stealing from?" [quote]
@marcorobotics @TonyJWells @Garwboy there are two primary resources on Mars: water tankies and oxygen tankies. And the red faction always has the volition for control.
Whoops, wrong franchise. Can we make a spin-off about SCP now?
@marcorobotics @farcaller @Garwboy
Mostly the Outer Planets Alliance.
@TonyJWells @marcorobotics @Garwboy this. This is why we can't have nice things. Humans find a new shiny toy and it ends up with another Reality Dysfunction.
Tobias ๐๐๐
diaeter@farcaller @Garwboy Damn commies! /s
Carla๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ@diaeter @farcaller @Garwboy Wait. Is that why it's called the Red Planet?
It's all beginning to make sense now!
It's all beginning to make sense now!
@carlafonseca Oh my goodness - who's behind that again? Liberal satanic elite, reptiloids or the kchrrr-jews?
mirth@farcaller @Garwboy No you're confusing that with the Moon landing which was done on a Hollywood sound stage. Elon Musk is a great man and he would never lie about taking us to Mars.
Kenneth John Bardsley@Garwboy
Brilliant !
Brilliant !
Gabbo the wafrn dev guy@[email protected] "FUN" FACT: the first person diagnosed with autism died less than a month ago
Pete
Axel@Garwboy I'm glad it is more 'common' now, despite meeting the occasional neuro-typical person saying it's all a trend.
I was finally diagnosed last year and my daughter this year. My son will be soon too and at least they can grow up in a world less alien and with a better understanding.
Perhaps even a little more compassion and empathy.
Lance, Enjoying Copious Pollen@Garwboy People just weren't cognizant of this stuff when I was a kid. Anyone aware of the telltale traits today can read my old report cards and notice some blatantly obvious patterns reported in my behavior.
I didn't suddenly become autistic when I was finally diagnosed at 43. ๐
Kate Watson@Garwboy @analogfusion Exactly. Just a lot more kids being punished and variously emotionally traumatised for things they couldnโt change.
Pavel ล mejkal@analogfusion @Garwboy Unfortunately some of them are not today either. I call it "good old days syndrome", you know, angry nostalgy for times when everything was cheaper, safer, more easy and healthy and colourful, so why not have it today! Just ignore all that science sh*t and new dangerous ideas! Easy as that!
Scott Galloway@Garwboy ADD & Autism were added to the DSM (III) in 1980 & neither were commonly diagnosed until the late 80s. So they're right...
flere-imsaho ๐บ๐ฆ@mawhrin @Garwboy They do if the diagnosis didn't exist before. Autism for example was diagnosed as 'childhood psychosis / shizoid disorder' and the children often locked away for life https://blogs.uoregon.edu/autismhistoryproject/topics/childhood-psychosis-or-schizophrenia/#:~:text=Before%20autism%20existed%20as%20a,in%20life%20was%20notoriously%20difficult.
John Gordon@scottgal @Garwboy Autism became tied to a lot more services and support than the older classifications of developmental delay or 5th percentile IQ. Autism diagnostic criteria, for the purposes of child services, are sufficiently broad that every parent, physician, and teacher of a cognitively disabled child is going to assign that label and get those services. We certainly did for our oldest.
Jonathan Hendry
SBird@Garwboy Even the doctors cooperate very poorly to diagnose adult people. My wife has had quite the journey to get #ADHD diagnose and any medical treatment. Of course, nobody talked about it in the 80s when she was young. She was just "very distracted" and "all over the place." And if the system helps her, it also helps me.
JerameeMuch of this is due to better diagnostic tests and increased awareness, aka, we're smarter now.
Some is also due to conformity pressures created by our culture.
At least in the early 90's, there was also a problem with overdiagnosing kids w/ ADHD.
OhMyD3vil 
@Garwboy by the same authors of โthe waters are turning the frogs gayโ and โkids nowadaysโฆ (insert any backwards bullcrap)โ
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld@Garwboy
A decade ago, maybe more, I recall my 70-something dad musing about his brother-in-law David, who was such an "odd duck" with difficulty fitting in.
"You know... the way they describe Autism... that matches Uncle David to a tee. Right down to the last detail."
He was one of my favorite uncles. Funny as hell. Often without trying. Whenever he was in town, Ma would send us to #HarMarMall to just kick around all day, surely 'cuz he drove her nuts.
Steven D. Brewer ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธI was 12 when the Viking I landed on Mars. I collected all of the newspaper clippings and was super excited to see the first images from the surface of Mars. โค๏ธ
pinecones@Garwboy people used to hide any forms of neurodivergent behavior because they viewed it as a personal moral failing.
call it how it really is. we as a society used to act like we didn't exist.
Aris Adamantiadis 
๐ฒPaid@pinecones_sx @Garwboy Add to this an hyper competitive and fast moving modern world where having attention issues doesn't fit the corporate view that employees should be 100% productive 8 hours a day
Serge from BabkaIt's especially important to remember how new these diagnoses are.
The first person to be diagnosed with Autism died just a few weeks ago!
And it wasn't until 1968 that ADHD was added to the DSM.
Even after something is added to the DSM, it can take time for that classification to gain awareness and acceptance.
I was diagnosed with ADHD in 1984, and I remember even as a kid people how much "skepticism" it was met with.
Benny Powers ๐จ๐ฆ๏ธ๐ฎ๐ฑ๏ธ
petros@Garwboy A great answer :-)
More on the practical side, I am reading Love and Autism by Kay Kerr.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/75558872-love-autism
A great book by an autistic person, I think. It is a very good read for everyone. We all meet, one way or the other, people with autism, and having a better grasp what makes them tick is good for all of us when we meet.
podfeet
moondog548
Matt Campbell@Garwboy In biblical times, I bet some autistic people were considered demon-possessed.
BogusMeatFactory@Garwboy oh my gosh yes. It's as if our existence is a static state at all times. We are learning so much about the natural world. We act as if we have it all figured out. Not even remotely.
Being an adult only recently diagnoses with ADHD, my parents never noticed even though every person they knew who saw me asked if I had ADHD. People are strange sometimes.
Neverfadingwood ๐บ๐ฆ@Garwboy Spot on! Asperger's wasn't even a thing yet when I was at school. No wonder it wasn't diagnosed. Of course the name has fallen out of favour now, and rightly, in my view. I'm just "on the spectrum".
C. R. Collins ๐ณ ๐ธAnd all of us who *should* have been diagnosed back then in the "good old days" roll their eyes.
Lstn2urmama ๐จ๐ฆ@Garwboy ... it's because we were told to stop doing whatever we were doing...
Pamela N Red@Garwboy in the old days they beat kids that didnโt conform to their idea of behavior. Being frightened into quiet submission was the norm.
Grouchig. Der Grummler.@Garwboy JFTR: First photo from the surface dated back from 1976 (Viking probes), so you are adressing only 60+ people?
Jax UK15 years or so ago I could quite often be heard to proclaim shit like "its just bad parenting!" or "its a con by big pharma" blah blah blah. God I would go back and slap myself if I could. I now have a diagnosis myself (diag at 42, now 48) and 2 autistic children (one adult, one teen). My grandson also being referred.
I wish it didnt take personal experience to open my eyes. Sadly, many people still touting that BS who never will.
Decker harrison
Lukas@Garwboy pix or it didn't happen