bigMouthCommie
Cykonot@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister as a rule it's all those things vs the sad.
Cope harder
@[email protected] @vegan @Resister "not necessarily"
"As a rule"
Look, I'll give you cheaper (because subsidies). But everything else you're wrong.
Blyde
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister And then watch
- Cowspiracy
- Seaspiracy
- What the Health
- The Game Changers
- Cowspiracy
- Seaspiracy
- What the Health
- The Game Changers
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister I am able to articulate my arguments, but I also know when it's wasted time.
Seitansbraten@[email protected] @vegan @cykonot @Resister @Blyde where are your science facts? You sure have some, don't you?
@Seitansbraten
The fact is that vegans exist and at the animal agriculture industry continues to grow.
@vegan @cykonot @Resister @Blyde
The fact is that vegans exist and at the animal agriculture industry continues to grow.
@vegan @cykonot @Resister @Blyde
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister @Blyde you have none. So bringing this up is a little funny & a bit cringe
vegan@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister we all can prove points counted. You can't. It's that easy
Tom Ritchford@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister No, what makes your statements false is that they are not factual.
It's likely you know this, given that you haven't produced any evidence for your claims.
@TomSwirly @vegan @cykonot @Resister
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL
there you go. despite the fact that vegans exist, more animals are killed now than ever before. being vegan hasn't stopped the industry's harmful effects on the environment nor saved any animal.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL
there you go. despite the fact that vegans exist, more animals are killed now than ever before. being vegan hasn't stopped the industry's harmful effects on the environment nor saved any animal.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister
> despite the fact that vegans exist, more animals are killed now than ever before.
99% of the world is not vegan. Why would you expect 1% to make the slightest difference?
The level of deliberate dishonesty it take to make an "argument" like that is simply astonishing.
I don't believe you're doing anything other than trolling.
@TomSwirly
@vegan @cykonot @Resister
everything I said was true. and it flies in the face of the claims being made by others here.
I know it's hard to admit when you've fallen for a life, so it makes sense some might feel angry, but my intention was just to spread some truth.
@vegan @cykonot @Resister
everything I said was true. and it flies in the face of the claims being made by others here.
I know it's hard to admit when you've fallen for a life, so it makes sense some might feel angry, but my intention was just to spread some truth.
@[email protected] @vegan @cykonot @Resister
So let's sum it up then!
You've made a bunch of hard-to-believe claims.
You've provided exactly one argument, to whit, "vegans exist but animals are still killed so the whole idea is worthless."
Really, that last part is just maddening. I know you don't even believe your own argument, you've made zero attempt to justify it.
Once I know you've seen this I'm going to block you. Life is too short to deal with pathologically mendacious individuals.
@TomSwirly
@vegan @cykonot @Resister
you're building a straw man, not faithfully recounting my position.
@vegan @cykonot @Resister
you're building a straw man, not faithfully recounting my position.
@TomSwirly
it's also hilarious that you think blocking me is some sort of coup de grace. you have only dishonestly characterized my position, and now you won't even be able to respond to my posts.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister
it's also hilarious that you think blocking me is some sort of coup de grace. you have only dishonestly characterized my position, and now you won't even be able to respond to my posts.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister
𝐀 || ᴸᵉᵃᵛᵉᴺᵒᵒⁿᵉᴮᵉʰⁱⁿᵈ@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister not holding animals in way to small spaces where they really can't move or turn around and killing them doesn't help them? and many countries have water shortages, specially in summer, even in europe, and you need 4-15k liter water for 1 kilo beef. How wouldn't it be better for the planet to not waste it? Not even talkin about how meat production is the 2nd biggest source of greenhouse gas emissions..
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister dude are you saying if ppl eat less meat there would be as many animals held as now?? whatever you took gime some of it.. Also there can be two very different ways of holding animals, but you kno probably all that and are jus trying to propagate your obsession with meat.
Daniel Django 
(Akkoma)@hriday @bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister
That is actually happening in germany right now. People are eating less meat and thus the amount of pigs being held is shrinking.
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/schweinebestand-deutschland-100.html
That is actually happening in germany right now. People are eating less meat and thus the amount of pigs being held is shrinking.
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/schweinebestand-deutschland-100.html
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister @hriday How does this show that the number would not be higher, if the amount of pigs was not shrinking in germany? There are litterally less pigs being held, because of reduced consumption, than there would be otherwise. These animals were never born, will never be in a cage, will never be tortured, will never be slaughtered. Because they don't exist at all.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister @hriday So, if every country would reduce their pig slaughtering, because more people would eat less meat, wouldn't then the overall number reduce?
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister @hriday Of course, there is also plan b: increase global warming, droughts and crop failure, until feeding plant-based food to animals is no longer feasible. I think this one is going pretty well.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister it is a science fact that vegan is better for climate & nature. And of course it's better for the animals.
Maybe you should prove your points instead of 'noooooo you have to be wrong, I don't want to change my habbits'😭-posts
@Seitansbraten @vegan @Resister
>it is a science fact that vegan is better for climate & nature. And of course it's better for the animals.
prove it
>it is a science fact that vegan is better for climate & nature. And of course it's better for the animals.
prove it
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220429-the-climate-benefits-of-veganism-and-vegetarianism
https://www.volunteerfdip.org/vegan-and-vegetarian-impact-on-environment-and-climate-change
https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition/vegan-diet-environment
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/could-going-vegan-help-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions
Need more? Try google. It's easy. Just type in what you're looking for & press enter. It's fantastic
@Seitansbraten
none of your sources actually show that going vegan changes anything. they only show that the animal agriculture industry has some bad effects.
@vegan @Resister
none of your sources actually show that going vegan changes anything. they only show that the animal agriculture industry has some bad effects.
@vegan @Resister
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister ah...so you're a magician who can serve animal products without animal agriculture 🤡
Maybe I tend to block funny trolls like you.
@Seitansbraten
this reads like an appeal to ridicule but it might just be a straw man. either way it's rhetoric and not logic or facts.
@vegan @Resister
this reads like an appeal to ridicule but it might just be a straw man. either way it's rhetoric and not logic or facts.
@vegan @Resister
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
1. Not what the original poster said.
2. You are wrong.
3. You are wrong.
4. For most people in general, you are wrong.
Summary: your claims are basically false and you provide no evidence for them.
@TomSwirly @vegan @Resister
i don't know what sort of evidenc you'd like, but i'm very confident of my position.
i don't know what sort of evidenc you'd like, but i'm very confident of my position.
@TomSwirly
I provided as much proof for my position as anyone else here
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
I provided as much proof for my position as anyone else here
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
Alberto Ⓥ@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
Hi there! I hope you don't mind if I join the conversation.
1. For the public, it doesn't have you, you're right. Processed food always requires to pay an extra. So, if instead of lentils, tomatoes, pasta, rice, beans, fruits and stuff like that we eat pizza all the time, then it's going to be expensive.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister But, considering the impact on the planet (environmental and sanitary) we are paying way more as a society.
I made this wiki with many resources: https://reddit.com/r/MyOwnVeganWiki
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister 2. Same, you can be vegan and destroy the world with a nuclear bomb, but the impact of veganism has a great impact on the world. Check Our World In Data (Oxford University) - Environmental impacts of food production https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impacts-of-food
@moshtodon
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
this doesn't prove that industry would become less polluting if I or anyone else became vegan.
it's also based on the the poore-neme ek paper which is dubious to me
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister
this doesn't prove that industry would become less polluting if I or anyone else became vegan.
it's also based on the the poore-neme ek paper which is dubious to me
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister hey, do you have a discord account or something so we can discuss this in a more comfortable way?