@Resister

@vegan

vegan food is not necessarily cheaper.

it's not necessarily better for the planet.

it does no good for animals.

you can't be sure it's better for anyone's health.


I could wish you were right, but you're over-promising.

@bigMouthCommie @vegan @Resister as a rule it's all those things vs the sad.

Cope harder

@cykonot

@vegan @Resister

it's not necessarily cheaper than the sad, and you can definitely have a less healthy diet that is also vegan. and, again, it's not necessarily any better for the planet nor does it help animals at all.

@[email protected] @vegan @Resister "not necessarily"
"As a rule"

Look, I'll give you cheaper (because subsidies). But everything else you're wrong.

@cykonot
calling me names and splitting hairs doesn't actually make what I said untrue.
@vegan @Resister

@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister No, what makes your statements false is that they are not factual.

It's likely you know this, given that you haven't produced any evidence for your claims.

@TomSwirly @vegan @cykonot @Resister

what sort of evidence would you like?
@TomSwirly @vegan @cykonot @Resister

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

there you go. despite the fact that vegans exist, more animals are killed now than ever before. being vegan hasn't stopped the industry's harmful effects on the environment nor saved any animal.
Meat production

Expressed in tonnes. Includes cattle, poultry, sheep/mutton, goat, pigmeat, and wild game.

Our World in Data

@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister

> despite the fact that vegans exist, more animals are killed now than ever before.

99% of the world is not vegan. Why would you expect 1% to make the slightest difference?

The level of deliberate dishonesty it take to make an "argument" like that is simply astonishing.

I don't believe you're doing anything other than trolling.

@TomSwirly

@vegan @cykonot @Resister

everything I said was true. and it flies in the face of the claims being made by others here.

I know it's hard to admit when you've fallen for a life, so it makes sense some might feel angry, but my intention was just to spread some truth.

@[email protected] @vegan @cykonot @Resister

So let's sum it up then!

You've made a bunch of hard-to-believe claims.

You've provided exactly one argument, to whit, "vegans exist but animals are still killed so the whole idea is worthless."

Really, that last part is just maddening. I know you don't even believe your own argument, you've made zero attempt to justify it.

Once I know you've seen this I'm going to block you. Life is too short to deal with pathologically mendacious individuals.

@TomSwirly
it's also hilarious that you think blocking me is some sort of coup de grace. you have only dishonestly characterized my position, and now you won't even be able to respond to my posts.
@bigMouthCommie @vegan @cykonot @Resister