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Bethany BlackFor hundreds of years philosophers and artists have asked “what is it to be human?”
And about 10 years ago tech bros discovered that it’s actually our ability to tell which pictures contain bridges.
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Steve.B@BethanyBlack Its not on the list but i will be at Stockport on Friday.
@Steve1963 oh lovely! Yeah it’s onky my tour shows in my website, circuit gigs are a different beast 🧐
PetrichorLove@BethanyBlack I can’t get to the gigs though I’m proud to be your Patreon. Have a fabulous time!
Kieranu@BethanyBlack cool, looking forward to the next special
Phil@BethanyBlack saw you at The Station in Kings Heath the other week and you were marvellous #AntiWankCat #YouHadToBeThere
Bobby@BethanyBlack and deciding if a bus is or is not a car…that’s the hardest one of those I’ve had to answer! Peak humanity right there.
Stefan です@bertie20 @BethanyBlack I just had one with animals and it showed a plate of sausages. Tough decision.
івась тарасик@stefandesu they caught me at «things you can eat» and some domestic animals like cows and pigs =(
Andreas K@bertie20 @BethanyBlack Actually, don't tell anyone, but you are basically providing training data for ML (labelling services) for free.
That has been what CAPTCHAs have been turned into for some years now.
@yacc143 @BethanyBlack at least we’ll finally be able to rely on AI to tell us if it’s a bridge, a taxi, a motorbike or a sausage. Finally I will stop trying to BBQ bridges!
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Raymond Russell@BethanyBlack
I still struggle with Traffic lights, busses and trucks.
I still struggle with Traffic lights, busses and trucks.
jelemux@raymierussell @BethanyBlack Yeah like, if a square has one little corner of traffic light, is it still traffic light? And is the pole a part of the light as well?
Mark Slater@BethanyBlack Is the post actually part of the traffic light or not, or is that something else?
Plebo@BethanyBlack
And I get wrong every time!
And I get wrong every time!
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Green Heart Collective@BethanyBlack Some of those captchas are difficult!!
@greenheartcollective @BethanyBlack Yes, like the captcha that asks you to identify “bicycles” but that includes motorcycles. It’s unclear whether the computer wants you to tag those too, given that a motorcycle is technically a motorized bicycle.
@JMaverickJacks1 @BethanyBlack yup - almost too human for the captcha in that case.
Jan's insightsGrandma probably won't get her pension, because she won't go through verification in the electronic records of the pension security system 😅
Schmaker@BethanyBlack @insights not only that this made me hungry, but I'm also very confused! 😁
Martin Bryant@BethanyBlack I thought it was traffic lights?
Tslil@[email protected] a joke- my boss called me to his office yesterday to find all the bikes in a captcha.
Doctor of Electricity@BethanyBlack It’s a dating site for robots. It’s trying to screen us out.
Interstellar Enigma 星際之謎@BethanyBlack
And when even we can't recognize it by ourselves,
The engineers: "Ha! Caught you, you cunning robot!"
And when even we can't recognize it by ourselves,
The engineers: "Ha! Caught you, you cunning robot!"
Probably Paul@BethanyBlack
Now the philosophers are asking, "Does the post upon which the traffic lights are suspended, itself count as traffic lights?" 🤔
Now the philosophers are asking, "Does the post upon which the traffic lights are suspended, itself count as traffic lights?" 🤔
[moved] stereo griever@BethanyBlack we're going into weird directions with this because yesterday I got to know from github that apparently "not a robot" is when you can solve a sha256 sudoku https://github.com/mCaptcha/mCaptcha#how-does-it-work
emo yuri satan@selfisekai @BethanyBlack
Well.. normal Captchas no longer provide any sort of security anymore - once, because of AIs, second - because https://2captcha.com/ charges you only under 1 euro for 1000 Captchas solved.
Proof of work actually makes your machine compute something (i.e. "waste some power") - this is acceptable to an end user once in a longer while, but completely unacceptable to an attacker who wants to launch a large scale attack.
It's sad that we have to resort to things like those, but it's just the only real way out. Unless you're aware of something better, of course.
Well.. normal Captchas no longer provide any sort of security anymore - once, because of AIs, second - because https://2captcha.com/ charges you only under 1 euro for 1000 Captchas solved.
Proof of work actually makes your machine compute something (i.e. "waste some power") - this is acceptable to an end user once in a longer while, but completely unacceptable to an attacker who wants to launch a large scale attack.
It's sad that we have to resort to things like those, but it's just the only real way out. Unless you're aware of something better, of course.
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@kspalaiologos @BethanyBlack if the baseline is 2captcha then I feel like we're just gonna replace the "$0.50 for 1-2 hours" workers with fpgas and raspberry pi clone clusters. maybe at least it's gonna be accessible to blind users, and not as annoying from user perspective, but who knows.
@selfisekai @BethanyBlack Well, that does sound a little better, no? And yeah. Relaying the captcha work to some compute clusters is definitely gonna be a thing. But keep in mind that they are expensive.
@kspalaiologos @BethanyBlack another aspect is that making the requests (together with solving captcha) could become a part of some botnet. which will be more noticeable to affected users due to resource usage, but still effective.
I mean, I'd like to see this in practice, especially as someone who rather has captchas to solve than to enforce. but that might not be the goal of them in the first place.
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Art - US Expat in Spain@BethanyBlack and what does that say about the abilities of AI if it is unable to tell what pictures contain bridges?
Rev. GothAlice@BethanyBlack Even then. uncaptcha, uncaptcha2 (they tried to patch the flaw the first one exploited, only improved automated solution rates…)
So… fairly trivial workarounds are also human, I guess.
🥥 Tucker Carlson's Nuts 🥥@BethanyBlack
🥥 For me it was the ability to check the squares that show traffic signals.
But I still don't know if I'm supposed to include the squares with the pole or just the ones with the lights. 🥥
🥥 For me it was the ability to check the squares that show traffic signals.
But I still don't know if I'm supposed to include the squares with the pole or just the ones with the lights. 🥥
Kals_Els@BethanyBlack and cats, don't forget the cats!
Avi@BethanyBlack Because it’s not that you have to be more human than the bear, you just have to be more human than the human behind you
steelman@BethanyBlack No, solving a captcha doesn't make you a human. It merely makes you not-a-robot.
@steelman @BethanyBlack After years of reading sci-fi, I never dreamt that the real Turing test would boil down to whether you can tell photos of frogs from photos of toads.🥴
@JMaverickJacks1 And that people would solve those tests as their daily jobs. 🤯 @BethanyBlack
Canadian Crone@BethanyBlack You win 😂😂😂😂😂😂
fluxion@BethanyBlack with a nearly 50% success rate
Braw ☕🏳️🌈@BethanyBlack jokes on you I can also recognise stairs!
John Maxwell@BethanyBlack I just want to know how I ended up on this end of the Turing test.
@BethanyBlack o bebidas
Carolleisa@BethanyBlack with my blurry right eye anything could be a bridge too far especially when I check my notifications without my glasses in the dark before down still lost in a dream within a nightmare.
Sorry the heat’s humidity and toxic dust is getting to me (my AC hates climate change).
@BethanyBlack Just so know, when you get the captcha asking you to separate dolphins from porpoises, the dolphins are the ones wondering whether to click a turtle or a tortoise.
Diabetic Heihachi@BethanyBlack
I bridge therefore I am.
I bridge therefore I am.
@BethanyBlack No! I believe it is 42 and my towle is fresh and clean...
Charlie@BethanyBlack Don’t forget crosswalks!
Kenneth John Bardsley@BethanyBlack
Or pedestrian crossings, or motorcycles. How true.
Or pedestrian crossings, or motorcycles. How true.
toybox [fr]@BethanyBlack If I had a time machine I would go back to ancient Greece and tell that to Plato. The look on his face would most likely be priceless.
Mark Liederbach@BethanyBlack if that’s the benchmark, my status is questionable at best.
@BethanyBlack There's a famous Japanese book from 1948 called 人間失格 (lit: "Disqualified as being human"). I think it's about someone who fails a Google reCAPTCHA test because he failed to correctly select the squares containing a fire hydrant.