Mastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

So, what's going on with all this #RedditMigration #Lemmy #kbin stuff?

Short version. Reddit is a mess. Users are fleeing to the #Fediverse.

There are two Fedi #Reddit alternatives you can join, Lemmy and kbin.

kbin: https://fedia.io/register (also https://kbin.social/register but now slammed)
Lemmy: https://infosec.pub/signup

New migrants please be patient. This is a lot like Nov 2022. It will be choppy, but get sorted out. This is another golden opportunity to break down corporate social media.
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Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

If you want some information on #kbin and #Lemmy here are a few resources:

Welcome to RedditMigration! >>> https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/12303

Switch to Lemmy or kbin >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/archcraft/comments/1470ccd/switch_to_kbin_or_lemmy_its_reddit_but_federated/

kbin FAQ>>> https://kilioa.org/m/[email protected]ial/t/266/A-small-FAQ-to-hopefully-help-new-users-to-kbin

Lemmy Finding Subreddits >>> https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2023/06/11/lemmy-migration-find-subreddits-communities/

#RedditMigration

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Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

#Lemmy and #kbin are part of the Fediverse and you can see their content on Mastodon, but you currently get more functionality by creating a kbin or Lemmy account account:

kbin: https://fedia.io/register (also https://kbin.social/register but now slammed)
Lemmy: https://infosec.pub/signup

Right now there are not many instances for either, but that does not mean the Fediverse can not handle a surge. Yesterday Mastodon's infosec.exchange spun up fedia.io (kbin) and infosec.pub (Lemmy) .

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Show threadMastodon Migration

There is every reason to suspect that other established Mastodon instances will jump into the breach to help with #RedditMigration .

We are going to see chaotic and exciting days ahead as the Fediverse once again adds capacity, new users build out content, and developers make rapid fire improvements to their applications. But this is what we do best.

Be patient. You are part of the existential shift from corporate domination to people powered social media.

We got this.

4/fin

Jun 12, 2023 at 3:46pmWeb
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

Just learned about lemmy.world https://lemmy.world/signup, from the mastodon.world folks.

Edit:
-Do not know about resourcing, but @smorks lemmy.ca https://lemmy.ca/signup has been mentioned
-You can also check out https://join-lemmy.org/ for more Lemmy instances

If you know of any other open well resourced Lemmy or kbin instances please reply to this post, and will list them here.

#RedditMigration

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Lemmy

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

More Lemmy:

general interest:
Https://beehaw.org
https://sh.itjust.works/

tech interest:
https://programming.dev/
https://discuss.tchncs.de/
https://lemmy.sdf.org

also:
https://feddit.uk/ UK
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone LGBT
https://midwest.social/communities

a more comprehensive list: https://join-lemmy.org/

Beehaw - Aspiring to be(e) a safe, friendly and diverse place.

Lemmy

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

New users should be aware that there have been concerns raised about the #Lemmy developers and the developers' main instances.

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

Others point out that, in the #Fediverse, instance moderation is up to the instance operator and that the technology itself is agnostic. Indeed, there are Mastodon instances that are pretty vile, and defederation is always an option here.

In any case, you should be aware of these issues concerning Lemmy.

#RedditMigration

FediTips has moved! (@[email protected])

Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression

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Show threadBrent Morris-MorrisJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration I heard about this, it has me hoping someone might fork it so we have a codebase that know contributing to won't automatically benefit standard lemmy
Show threadvolkrisJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration

Yeah that is some throwing the baby out with the bath water pattern of thought.

If Lemmy can be valuable to the Fediverse community then it doesn’t matter one bit whether the developers are good people or bad people or smelly or have their in bad intentions.

This isn’t like magic. The software will do what it is programmed to do regardless of the mindsets and motivations of the developers.

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023
@volkris Not disagreeing with you, or taking a position one way or the other. The purpose of this post was simply to make people aware of the issue.
Show threadAdam DallianceJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration

I wrote a description of what these things are and why anyone cares to explain to the rest of fedi what's going on.

https://dalliance.net/vPre2/lemmyvskbin

Groups On Fediverse – Lemmy and KBin – Dalliance

Show threadwizdumJun 13, 2023
@mastodonmigration don't let Perfect be the enemy of Good. If you think the Lemmy devs are suspicious, you should check out who funds the rest of the big internet media companies.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 13, 2023
@wizdum The purpose of this post is to flag the issue, not to take a position on either side of this matter.
Show threadW6KMEJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration With the original lemmy devs being hard pro-China regime, and removing anti-China government posts and comments (on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad), be sure you look into who is running any Lemmy instance before you decide to join. I may wait until it's been forked by people without such an agenda. I'm also looking at kbin.

Staying at Reddit any longer isn't even a decision for me know; I've been active from back when it started, but now that's it's being musked I'll be out soon.

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023
@W6KME Thank you. That is helpful. Have the lemmy devs done anything to address these concerns?
Show threadW6KMEJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration I don't know more than what I have read in various reddit fora (the ones that haven't been removed for advocating lemmy lol). There have been past efforts hardcode blockword lists etc, that later were made optional. It looks like nothing bad has successfully been embedded, but the efforts were there. I'd be happier if the devs left the politics to instance admins.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023
@W6KME Agreed. Helpful. It will be interesting to see how this concern is addressed.
Show threadWill PhoenixJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration @W6KME Promote Kbin not lemmy please with all this pro CCCP stuff going on lemmy
Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Jun 13, 2023
@W6KME @mastodonmigration With infosec and .world adopting Lemmy, I would expect that anything detrimental going into the code would lead to a sustainable fork.
Show threadMike FraserJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration @smorks has opened lemmy.ca
Show threadfedi Jun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration

general interest lemmies:

Https://beehaw.org
https://sh.itjust.works/

tech interest:

https://programming.dev/
https://discuss.tchncs.de/
https://lemmy.sdf.org

also:

https://feddit.uk/ UK
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone LGBT

a more comprehensive list:

https://join-lemmy.org/

Beehaw - Aspiring to be(e) a safe, friendly and diverse place.

Lemmy

Show threadTim ChambersJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration it is more about Pixelfed and imagery but @dansup did launch:

Fedia.io has gone from zero to abt 16,000 users:
https://fedia.io/stats

And Kbin.social is now at around 123,000 users:
https://kbin.social/stats

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Show threadlj·rkJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration I can't find the moderation rules these instances impose. I assume infosec.pub will be similar to infosec.exchange, but can't find anything for kbin or fedia :/
Show threadCody Dostal Jun 12, 2023
@ljrk @mastodonmigration fedia will likely be like infosec.exchange, as it’s run by them as well.
Show threadlj·rkJun 12, 2023

@dostalcody @mastodonmigration Ah, thank you :)

Well, let's see what else pops up :D

Show threadJerry 🦙💝🦙Jun 12, 2023
@ljrk @dostalcody @mastodonmigration I’ll get the privacy policy and rules posted this evening.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

@dostalcody @ljrk Yes. Thank you. Jerry Bell @jerry can certainly be relied upon to do a solid job with https://fedia.io/

#RedditMigration

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Show threadlj·rkJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration @dostalcody @[email protected] I don't doubt him, for me personally I'm just looking out for an outspoken politically left wing instance (while not being tankie/ml/stalinist like lemmy.ml). I can totally see that a lot of people want something more moderate, but unfortunately "political centrism" or related things often just make moderation a dull sword when it comes to things like transphobia.

I acknowledge that the rules ban such stuff, but for me a "safe" instance one where the rules err more on the side of caution, had too much of that shit from "moderate but progressive" instances.

But the good thing is: My rules don't need to apply to everyone. There'll be time and place for me as well :)

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

@ljrk @dostalcody Understood, and certainly that is coming. Early days. You might want to ask a Mastodon instance operator you like to spin up a #kbin or #Lemmy instance.

#RedditMigration

Show threadlj·rkJun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration @dostalcody I don't want to overburden my favorite masto admin here at todon :-p

But yes, thought about it. If I wasn't such a crappy sysadmin myself... :D

Show threadCody Dostal Jun 12, 2023
@ljrk @mastodonmigration Oh I get you! I'm sure if one doesn't exist, it will come up eventually! Feeling safe in whatever community you join is 100% essential!
Show threadlj·rkJun 12, 2023

@dostalcody @mastodonmigration <3

I'm most sure of it, there needs to be a home for all the queerness of r/traaaa etc.! :D

Show threadmaniajackJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration yep, https://lemmy.world is from mastodon.world people
Lemmy.World - A generic Lemmy server for everyone to use.

Lemmy

Show threadMeowJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration I can't find interesting contents there. I rarely used Reddit already so I can't find a reason to try them.
Show threadTraveling Ed Teja (Writer)Jun 12, 2023

@mastodonmigration

I'm trying to be helpful when I say that your first sentence makes no sense to me at all. I don't know what "established Mastodon instances are" or what breach you are talking about. I'm just a user and that sort of statement is baffling.

Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023

@edteja Sorry. Back in November the amount of overall #Fediverse server capacity was relatively small. The #twittermigration inspired many well resourced Mastodon servers (actually server farms). These same systems can be used for kbin and Lemmy instances, and already two large Mastodon instance infosec.exchange and mastodon.world are "jumping into the breach" and offering kbin and Lemmy instances. https://infosec.pub/signup, https://fedia.io/register, https://lemmy.world/signup

#RedditMigration

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Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 12, 2023
@edteja Further, this situation highlights one of the amazing and wonderful things about the #Fediverse. The underlying technology, #ActivityPub, is the same for all of these applications, so it is relatively easy for those familiar with one to host others. This has profound implications for the future of an entire constellation the social media applications on the Fediverse. Contrast the corporate apps which are all independent technologies with different code and do not talk to each other.
Show threadTraveling Ed Teja (Writer)Jun 13, 2023
@mastodonmigration
I really appreciate the attempt to explain. But I don't know what an "instance" is in your world (much less kbin or Lemmy), so it's still mystical. The post came across as something everyone is dealing with, so I was a bit perplexed.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 13, 2023
@edteja "Instance" in the #Fediverse refers to the actual software running on the server handling your account. For instance, in your case, your "instance" is "mastodonbooks.net". Somewhere there is a computer that is running a copy of Mastodon that is the mastodonbooks.net "instance". When you log into mastodonbooks.net that happens on this server, and all your posts are run by this equipment. Because mastodonbooks.net is "federated" on the "Fediverse" it then talks to all the other instances.
Show threadMastodon MigrationJun 13, 2023

@edteja In the case of #kbin. On Mastodon there are thousands of instances big and small. On #kbin right now there are very instances of which https://fedia.io and https://kbin.social are two. You can sign up to either one, just as you chose a server on Mastodon.

To keep it simple. In the lexicon "Server" and "Instance" are pretty much synonymous.

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Show threadRobertJun 12, 2023
@mastodonmigration Also: Lemmy https://join-lemmy.org
Built on the same federation model as Mastodon.
Lemmy - A decentralised discussion platform for communities

Lemmy

Show threadWendy MsGator 🐊Jun 14, 2023

@mastodonmigration

aus.social is here for any interested Aussies to join. It doesn't limit you to Aussie interchanges but it's made a good home for me.